Taxes

[NinjaNanna]

I've been thinking, taxes are meant to collectively enable us to buy things and supply services.

Everybody will have a different opinion but what do you think our money is being well spent on and what do you think it is being poorly spent on?

Seems to me we've all got an issue with public spending but what should we go without, or conversely what would you be willing to pay more tax to have?

Household budgets are no different to National Budgets or even Council Budgets, they are a balancing act between income and needs and desires.

[spookytooth]

Bureaucracy
We need one hell of a lot less of it.What ever the hell it is

[rainman]

Thread weather forecast: lots of heat, not much light.

Good luck.

[mashman]

I certainly don't think the Gov Generals mansion being given a $40 million upgrade was value for money.

[Ocean1]

Thread weather forecast: lots of heat, not much light.

Given that fuck all of it's headed my way I'll stick with wishing they took a lot less of my hard earned in the first place.

'Course, if there was special funding for research into the most efficacious quantity of Bourbon, beaches and blondes required to best care and feed decrepit engineers...

[Usarka]

Over half of the price of petrol is tax.

[Ocean1]

Over half of the price of petrol is tax.

Over half the price of everything is tax.

Believe it's something in the order of 57%

[phill-k]

I've been thinking, taxes are meant to collectively enable us to buy things and supply services.

Everybody will have a different opinion but what do you think our money is being well spent on and what do you think it is being poorly spent on?

Seems to me we've all got an issue with public spending but what should we go without, or conversely what would you be willing to pay more tax to have?

Household budgets are no different to National Budgets or even Council Budgets, they are a balancing act between income and needs and desires.

For your own sanity I would advise you don't allow thoughts such as this to enter your conscious

[aprilia_RS250]

I would be happy at current tax rate if there was a switch from

Less on race related expenditure (e.g. grants on Maoris)
Less dependence on welfare
Less spend on useless shit like NZSO

More on
Hospitals, Education and infrastructure.


But ultimately I'd like a min tax system, like 10-20%. Just for the necessities, roads, police hospitals.

If you have kids and can't afford them don't have them.

If you can't be fucked getting an education and rather smoke weed and can't find work tough shit, fuck off to Oz and be a miner, I ain't gona pay money to support your habit.

I hate the fact I get called greedy by a dude on the doll or single mother on welfare when they're the ones after my $$$

[scott411]

at the moment we are either taking in too little, and spending to much of the taxes

problem is, if you raise the taxes, more people will fuck off to Australia where the wages are higher, the only really decent idea i have heard to earn more was the mining idea, but that got shot down pretty quick,

now the other way, is to spend less, now every time the goverment of today tries to do that they are either benefit bashing, poor hating, or reducing services,

National has done a average to poor job of keeping this in control, and Labours new idea's of giving even more money away, and reducing taxes (the under 10k threshold) is even worse,

i wish someone would come up with a better idea, but since our party system is the way it is either National or Labour will be in power next time

[James Deuce]

I would be happy at current tax rate if there was a switch from

Less on race related expenditure (e.g. grants on Maoris)
Less dependence on welfare
Less spend on useless shit like NZSO

More on
Hospitals, Education and infrastructure.


But ultimately I'd like a min tax system, like 10-20%. Just for the necessities, roads, police hospitals.

If you have kids and can't afford them don't have them.

If you can't be fucked getting an education and rather smoke weed and can't find work tough shit, fuck off to Oz and be a miner, I ain't gona pay money to support your habit.

I hate the fact I get called greedy by a dude on the doll or single mother on welfare when they're the ones after my $$$

Wheee! Answer dude answers!

Really funny stuff. You should write for The Onion.

[oneofsix]

now the other way, is to spend less, now every time the goverment of today tries to do that they are either benefit bashing, poor hating, or reducing services,

That's cause their only ideas when it comes to spending less are to benefit bash and yet they always leave out the biggest greediest bunch of beneficiaries - themselves. Loved the way they cut their travel perks and then gave themselves a back dated wage rise to cover the lose, effectively meaning they had both at the same time for a backdated period. And don't bleat on about it being the high salaries commission that gave them the pay rise, who the F appoints the higher salaries commission and pay their wages!

Don't care who, vote them out every 3 years.

[scott411]

i agree that they should have not taken a pay rise, there so called independant pay review is bullshit,

in the end tho, the cost of the 121 mp's pales in comparision to the full cost of the 10 of thousands of benifcarys, but you are right, they need to clean up there own shit as well,

couple of things i think should go, are interest free student loans, although i think the interest free should be used as a carrot in certain professions, (country doctors and teachers, nurses as an example)

and i think that the super age needs to rise, prob to 68 to 70, i think people are living much longer now, and the 65 age is to low,

most benificary's are deserving and do not work the system, but some definatly do, we need to find some way to get people off the dpb and the sickness beneift when they are able to work,

[NinjaNanna]

perhaps the best way to break welfare dependancy is to introduce a system whereby the benefit decreases over time.

Lose your job no worries we understand, and we'll help you out

• First 2 months - 80% of your salary
• Next month - 70% of the average wage
• next month - 60% of the average wage
• next month - 50% of the average wage
• next month - 40% of the average wage
• after another 6 months (ie 12 months since losing your job) - 25%
• after 2 years - 0%

note diliberate use of salary and average wage

[superman]

Less spend on useless shit like NZSO

The one good bit of culture NZ has and it's not worth it? If spending tax on NZSO isn't worth it I hope you think the same across the board, ie All Blacks etc. In which case I'd agree, but if you fund sports... you fund arts. And that's that.