MNZ board nominations

[scrivy]

Ok Andrew was there and Craig was there and Lazzarini and Gozzini we are talking 2009 remember , oh and who esle? , and more importantly what top riders weren't at the nationals?
I can't believe you have no regard for the other riders present Ian! There were most of the top contenders in most classes there. Did you have your eyes wide shut?? Fitzgerald, Williams, Frost, Skachill, Briggs, Donnelly, Merkel, Love, Rajek, Galway, Smart, Tanner, Clee, Summers, Unsworth, Easton, Chappell, Moir, the list goes on and on.......... do you not give a rats about them? Who else?? That is an insult to NZ's best riders!
That comment just shot down every 2nd place getter and below. That sucks. But hey, that's your opinion. You'd rather just have 6 or so bikes of higher calibre riders?? I wouldn't pay to watch that.

Mate why didn't you run the event without Chris , as you seem capable?

You ask your mate Jim. I've already stated on here why.

[The Chow]

You ask your mate Jim. I've already stated on here why.

Andy don't insult me please , I can tell you this I have just got off the phone after having a frank discussion to my mate Jim (and he still is one) , but I can have free and frank meetings with him and yes he doesn't like it at times, but we are friends.

Chris I like him and have always got on with him , I just hope he knows what he is getting himself in for.

I am on good terms with most of the riders , who I count many as friends. This includes club racers , take a look at the website mate , I will be covering the vic series this year and hopefully I can get some of the club boys and girls some coverage. By the way everyone , Andrew Presant tells me all the classes have this year got naming rights sponsors for every class , sorry to see that Sidecars are once again no longer invited. More track time for the solos

[Biggles08]

I am on good terms with most of the riders , who I count many as friends. This includes club racers , take a look at the website mate , I will be covering the vic series this year and hopefully I can get some of the club boys and girls some coverage. By the way everyone , Andrew Presant tells me all the classes have this year got naming rights sponsors for every class , sorry to see that Sidecars are once again no longer invited. More track time for the solos

Ian, the website this year for the National rounds was excellent and long may it continue, you guys do a fantastic job!

Re the abuse I totally 100% agree it is never acceptable, however as are the stewards human, so are the riders.

When decisions are blatantly inaccurate over a period of time I can see how frustration can get the better of them. The Auckland round was interesting as it was Glen Skatchel I believe that specifically asked the question in the morning at riders briefing about what would happen if the race was declared wet (as it was in the morning) but it started to dry up throughout the day. We were told that it was riders choice and no allowance for tire changes were going to be given again. Then they did exactly that!

Anyway, sorry for digressing again... good question and I await the answers from Jim and Chris.

[budda]

You ask your mate Jim. I've already stated on here why.

You ladies really do need to play more nicely ........ if you keep spitting the dummy, one of the cat pies in the sandpit you're so jealously guarding might stick to it ......
actually, then you'd have an excuse for talking shit ! - carry on !!!!!!!!!!!!

[scrivy]

Andy don't abuse me please ,
Abuse you?? WTF?? How is calling Jim your mate abuse? You just stated he is your mate! I can't figure that out Ian. I don't come on here to abuse peoople, I come on here to set records straight and tell fact.

Chris I like him and have always got on with him , I just hope he knows what he is getting himself in for.
He's not a fool Ian.

all the classes have this year got naming rights sponsors for every class , sorry to see that Sidecars are once again no longer invited. More track time for the solos

I dont do the Winter meetings, so i can't complain. What I will say to you though Ian, is that it was not the NZSRA that committed to doing the VMCC rounds last year. It was an individual that shouldn't have commented for others. You obviously know all about that, but are reluctant to say so.

You are trying so hard to tarnish the NZSRA and myself. But you say you're in the sport for the love of it. Me too. But lies, rumours and mis-truths or deliberate witholding of the full story doesn't help the sport Ian.

[The Chow]

I dont do the Winter meetings, so i can't complain. What I will say to you though Ian, is that it was not the NZSRA that committed to doing the VMCC rounds last year. It was an individual that shouldn't have commented for others. You obviously know all about that, but are reluctant to say so.

You are trying so hard to tarnish the NZSRA and myself. But you say you're in the sport for the love of it. Me too. But lies, rumours and mis-truths or deliberate witholding of the full story doesn't help the sport Ian.

Same here mate the amount of shit I have heard from the otherside of the fence with you guys in the chairs , I'm over it . I did count some of your members as friends until they started putting shit into what I was doing for the nationals not anyone else in fact I can point the finger at you directly back in beginning at Timaru 2008 when you were bitching here on this site about how it was just solos getting all the attention and what about us . So Pot calling Kettle.

[scrivy]

then you'd have an excuse for talking shit ! - carry on !!!!!!!!!!!!

Nah Budda, shit and fact are both 4 letter words, and both end in 't', but thats all they have in common!

Scrivy

[scrivy]

Same here mate the amount of shit I have heard from the otherside of the fence with you guys in the chairs , I'm over it .
So how much did you hear from our 'Side'? 'Cause we're over it too Ian. We moved on and let them play themselves.

I did count some of your members as friends until they started putting shit into what I was doing for the nationals not anyone else in fact I can point the finger at you directly back in beginning at Timaru 2008 when you were bitching here on this site about how it was just solos getting all the attention and what about us . So Pot calling Kettle.

Can you give me specifics Ian, or PM me so I can understand where you're coming from? I've got broad shoulders. If I f@cked up, then I'll apologise, but I need the details.

Scrivy

[The Chow]

Can you give me specifics Ian, or PM me so I can understand where you're coming from? I've got broad shoulders. If I f@cked up, then I'll apologise, but I need the details.

Scrivy

Scrivy from where I sit , I'm just over the whole issue. It has been a gigantic F**K up and the original problem that the Sidecar Association had has been lost in the murk, (for me that is)

I will PM later with how I see things , but the sport is all that matters at the end of the day.

As a jesture of good faith , should Chris win , then I'm still around to cover the sport.

[scrivy]

Scrivy from where I sit , I'm just over the whole issue. It has been a gigantic F**K up and the original problem that the Sidecar Association had has been lost in the murk, (for me that is)

I will PM later with how I see things , but the sport is all that matters at the end of the day.

As a jesture of good faith , should Chris win , then I'm still around to cover the sport.

Finally Ian, we agree. This slagging match was going no where!
I understand your dismay with certain events - I too have alot! Were we both to blame? No!
I will defend our club, as I am passionate about it. I do not like un-informed attacks made of it by certain keyboard jockies. (And no, thats not a reference to you, and I'm not calling you that either).
Both of us have 'invested' alot of time and money into our sport. It's called giving back. You've done it, and so have I. My TRRS cost me over 400 hours a year, not to mention shit loads of money!
Do I want to see growth? HELL YES!!! Is it possible?? HELL YES!!!

And by the way, I too watched the timing, live feeds etc of the Tri-series and nats. I too was friggin impressed!!

You have undoubtedly done a massive job there Ian. I applaud you for that.

Scrivy

[ellipsis]

What if anything are you going to do about.

Abuse by riders/team members to Officials /Organisers
Which appears to be on the increase , not naming names but it happened three times this year that I'm aware , one time in particular was bad at Hampton Downs , where experienced stewards were abused.

Ok a steward or official may get stuff wrong , and that has always happened and will always happen. But they don't need to take the abuse. In the case in Auckland it was totally uncalled for.
Riders have always got a proceedure to follow with regarding disputes , this does not give them the right to abuse the unpaid officials or organisers.

...on the flip side of that coin......bullying and abuse and misquoting MNZ rules to riders...been a little of that too, from way up on high...not a dig ..bit of balance...Im one of the 95% of club road racers who have done as many laps on as many bikes over the years as a lot of others...dont look at the Nats as being the be all and end all of motorcycle road racing in this country...important as they are...I along with many others miss the sidechair numbers and excitement of their class...have been to one of JT's training classes a few months back and thought it was bloody great...learned a lot I should have already known..I naively asked a serious question,about this time last year on KB and it turned into a shit fight over fuck all ,I thought...phone calls from JT, shit from other people who had different opinions...KB may be a place to do this but all should remember that they are probably reading this in Kurgistan too...dialogue is great..diarrhea leaves a stain...

...was so cool to be able to listen to the Nats this year in the comfort of my buckled house...cheers...neil morrison #6285

[budda]

Sorry, cant find the correct post to quote it, and frankly cant be arsed spending the time to find it ..... was posted on here that Chairs have only done 2 South Island Rounds for many many years. Funny that, they did ALL Mainland Rounds for MANY MANY years before the change of heart . As one who was THERE when things changed, I know why this all started - interested to see if any of the current Pontificators are as aware as they claim to be .............

There has been a claim that the root cause of all this character assassination and mutual masturbation is the decision by the NZSCRA to only do 2 South Island Rounds - anyone care to elaborate on the reasons why ?

[codgyoleracer]

(QUOTE) IAN D,
As for the genuine questions being asked then keep it going I say. Chris you say you are for majority this and majority that , well what happens when people show they want five rounds , be the votes from Riders/Fans or what ever , are you still going to push for two rounds?[/QUOTE]



I have a genuine question on a fundamental item:Re the low numbers of MNZ members actually taking the time to vote for MNZ positions.

How difficult is it to align voting with the timing of renewing your license. It could simply a "click through form" and as part of registering for your license you need to make a selction of your preffered candidates for the various positions.

If you dont choose one - then you cant complete the form.

Its easy peasy stuff - web site wise?

Cheers
Glen Williams #2945

[Crasherfromwayback]

If you dont choose one - then you cant complete the form.

Its easy peasy stuff - web site wise?

Cheers
Glen Williams #2945

Stop talking so much sense man.

[scrivy]

How difficult is it to align voting with the timing of renewing your license. It could simply a "click through form" and as part of registering for your license you need to make a selction of your preffered candidates for the various positions.

If you dont choose one - then you cant complete the form.

Its easy peasy stuff - web site wise?

Cheers
Glen Williams #2945

That does sound easy and ideal!
Unfortunately, people get their licences at different times of the year, when no candidates are up for election.