MNZ board nominations

[Crasherfromwayback]

You'd have to have nuts before I could call ya nutty mate!

Check. Big hairy ones at that.

[wharfy]

I am still at a loss to understand how and why we are still living in the bloody past! Everyone has a past and everyone has fucked someone off at some point of their lives.
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Of course there is a BIG difference between some fucking you off and fucking you over

Peoples behavior in the past is often a good indication of how they will behave in similar circumstances in the future.

[Biggles08]

The point to the question was,

In an earlier post you suggested I was holding Chris Lawrance completely responsible for the state sidecar racing is in at a National level.

My reply was,Not solely,However Im sure you would have to agree,That as a senior and obviously well respected member of the sidecar racing fraternity AND as I understand it (And Im sure I'll be corrected if Im wrong)Immediate past president of the NZSRA,By not competing at a national level in recent times or making an attempt too rectify the rift in the sidecar fraternity,He has in some way contributed to the state sidecar racing is in today at National level???

Is this how he intends to conduct himself as MNZ president?

I'm still at a loss as to how asking me if I was unhappy with my class of racing if I would stand up and be counted? Are you suggesting Chris hasn't done this in his class?

[Paul Searancke]

Paul, go back and read the last 51 pages. Therein lies the truth.
You guys make a comment, but then can't back it up with FACT, then mis-quote what others say. Read the posts above. Bykmad made that quite clear.

I said i'll fall on my sword if I'm proven wrong. But haven't been proven wrong yet, and there's been alot of issues raised here.
So that makes your sides fabrication of stories on here absolutely worthless, and factless.


Scrivy

I have tried not to personalise any of my comments on here but now you not only accuse me of being on a "side" but also one that fabricates stories.
From your post it appears your opinion is that anyone who is not 100% behind the Elect Chris Lawrance campaign is on the "other side" and a fabricator who's contribution to the debate on here is worthless and factless.
Fortunately there is a real world (not cyber space).

Paul Searancke

[scrivy]

I have tried not to personalise any of my comments on here but now you not only accuse me of being on a "side" but also one that fabricates stories.
From your post it appears your opinion is that anyone who is not 100% behind the Elect Chris Lawrance campaign is on the "other side" and a fabricator who's contribution to the debate on here is worthless and factless.
Fortunately there is a real world (not cyber space).

Paul Searancke

er..... Paul, get off ya high horse, you have stated a mis-truth on here as posted below. Remember this post made by you? You have come on here and posted that lie (or whatever you want to call it) and made out it was a fact - which it wasn't!! And then you had another member come on here and prove you wrong by stating the fact!!

Hi Billy,
As far as I am aware they didn't make themselves available after resigning, not even for a hand over briefing.

Paul Searancke - a fabricator who's contribution to the debate on here is worthless and factless.

Scrivy

You see Paul, how it looks when you don't tell the truth?
There are no shades of the truth. Its black or white - ain't no grey in sight.

Now, can we stop the attacks on my 'side', and see if this thread can move on?

[Crasherfromwayback]

The horse is dead.

[scrivy]

The horse is dead.

What, no horsepower????

Oh stink!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Flogged it to death.

[jellywrestler]

Everyone has a past and everyone has fucked someone

It's that Red Wine again, I've kept warning people about it!

[Str8 Jacket]

It's that Red Wine again, I've kept warning people about it!

Is that what you were drinking at my 30th??

[prettybillie]

As some of you will know - I've sat in both sides of the sidecar argument. I've had abuse flung at me by NZSRA members and I've had abuse flung at me by non NZSRA members, but through all the garbage that was going on (which to be perfectly honest I know nothing about), Chris Lawrance always made a point of coming and saying hello and asking me how me and my rig were doing. I can honestly say that from what I've experienced first hand I've never been given the impression that Chris was ever involved with what has happened, far less instigated any of it.

As per most of the posts on here - this has just been my experience.

[Billy]

You crack me up Billy!!
Steve Bron resigned from the association, then went and did his own thing! Much to the disapproval of the rest of the NZSRA members. Promising Tuckerman that he'd have the numbers. But didn't! He, not Chris, has put the sidecars in the position they're in. But as I said earlier, the NZSRA sidecar members are growing and moving on with things.

Good of you to answer Morris's questions Scrivy!

Dont see anywhere in the manual where it states you MUST belong too the NZSRA too compete in a sidecar race in NZ,

As I understand it the now disassociated NZSRA was only an affiliated club like say for arguments sake,The Vic club??So does that mean that only Vic club members can do the Actrix series??Jeez Scrivy,I hope not cause otherwise we're gonna have to join a lot of clubs to do the Nationals,AYE!!!

Soooo,I guess assuming you don't need to belong to the NZSRA to race a sidecar in NZ and Steve Bron turned up to do the Nationals and you guys didnt,Then that must mean it was you guys that dragged sidecar racing into the doldrums ????

"You guys" Andrew Scrivener/Steve Bryan,Chris and Richie Lawrance and the rest of the NZSRA members that refused to compete with Steve Bron

[scrivy]

Oh, billys back...............

Still talking shit.

As you were.

[Billy]

Which is exactly what Billy keeps on about. He has a trouble with sidecars, and won't let it go.

Not at all Scrivy,

You could talk too the likes of Vince Steur/Dave Beresford,Adam Unsworth/Stu Dawes,Jimmy and Drew Mair,The Graham Brothers,Kevin Maxwell/Tex,Gary West/Robbie Shorter,Karen Yeager,The late Howard Gregory if he were still with us,Rob Hartnell,Mo Haley and the list goes on,All of which I get on with VERY well.

I guess that makes the above statement a lie then does it??

Or is that shit as well???

[old rig]

Good of you to answer Morris's questions Scrivy!

Dont see anywhere in the manual where it states you MUST belong too the NZSRA too compete in a sidecar race in NZ,

As I understand it the now disassociated NZSRA was only an affiliated club like say for arguments sake,The Vic club??So does that mean that only Vic club members can do the Actrix series??Jeez Scrivy,I hope not cause otherwise we're gonna have to join a lot of clubs to do the Nationals,AYE!!!

Soooo,I guess assuming you don't need to belong to the NZSRA to race a sidecar in NZ and Steve Bron turned up to do the Nationals and you guys didnt,Then that must mean it was you guys that dragged sidecar racing into the doldrums ????

"You guys" Andrew Scrivener/Steve Bryan,Chris and Richie Lawrance and the rest of the NZSRA members that refused to compete with Steve Bron

the last line of your post is so so wrong i think you havn't any idea what your talking about