Osama is dead

**YellowDog** · 2nd May 2011, 19:10

Originally Posted by CAMSec

...there are a thousand bin ladens out there...his unlimited wealth and charisma is easily duplicated...its called politics and the quest for power...the nutters who are incensced by his demise are already generating the next one...he may be in Bradford or Leeds, right now...

I understand that Winston Peters is available

**aprilia_RS250** · 2nd May 2011, 19:11

Wonder if he's shagging the 72 virgins or getting rammed by the devil himself...?

**ellipsis** · 2nd May 2011, 19:14

Originally Posted by YellowDog

I understand that Winston Peters is available

...can you imagine the state his beard would get into, after a big night on the piss and a couple of packets of smokes...

**Number One** · 2nd May 2011, 19:18

I'm sure they are well sorted in terms of a succession plan...I shudder to think what's to come now that he's become a martyr...as was probably expected by him and his lot anyway

**ellipsis** · 2nd May 2011, 19:20

Originally Posted by YellowDog

I understand that Winston Peters is available

...but on the other hand, No-doze Truck Stop is a dead ringer for OBL already...it would save us the hassle of being terrorised by the kiffing tool if the Hone ,Bradford society got any foothold...

**Edbear** · 2nd May 2011, 19:21

Originally Posted by Number One

I'm sure they are well sorted in terms of a succession plan...I shudder to think what's to come now that he's become a martyr...as was probably expected by him and his lot anyway

With his background and education, I doubt he was in a hurry to become a martyr. He was more Western than many Westerners and we may never know the truth behind his actions and motivations.

Notable was that he was killed rather than captured.

**Number One** · 2nd May 2011, 19:22

Originally Posted by Edbear

Notable was that he was killed rather than captured.

I doubt very much he would have allowed himself to be captured alive.

Not surprised to hear he was a hypocrite either...Dirty santa! I still lol at that

**pzkpfw** · 2nd May 2011, 19:23

Originally Posted by Genestho

That's not how it works in their world though. They don't have to be the best or the smartest, they just have to be suicidal..
There are rewards to be had in Jihad - Holy War, with Allah and in their heaven.

Martyrdom inspires others to continue the work, that is why this is a "war" that could never be won as we - the west, know it.

Kind of missed my point.

Even groups like these need "leaders". People to make plans, people to organise and supply money, training, arms.

The leaders are not the guys who go out suiciding themselves. They get other people to do that. e.g. It wasn't Bin Laden flying the planes into the towers.

Sure, they've got plenty of young guys (and lately girls) with no sense of a future willing to go in a martydomy way. But, if you can keep up pressure on the leaders... it's got to help.

Bin Laden won't be the last "leader" of this group, but his death brings the end of the group closer.

**Number One** · 2nd May 2011, 19:26

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

his death brings the end of the group closer.

Really? I suspect there are hundred more ready to take his place and then a hundred more behind that too.

**Oblivion** · 2nd May 2011, 19:29

Originally Posted by Number One

Really? I suspect there are hundred more ready to take his place and then a hundred more behind that too.

Exactly. Even in the unlikelihood that the group collapses, a new group will form in due course.

**Genestho** · 2nd May 2011, 19:32

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

Kind of missed my point.

Even groups like these need "leaders". People to make plans, people to organise and supply money, training, arms.

The leaders are not the guys who go out suiciding themselves. They get other people to do that. e.g. It wasn't Bin Laden flying the planes into the towers.

Sure, they've got plenty of young guys (and lately girls) with no sense of a future willing to go in a martydomy way. But, if you can keep up pressure on the leaders... it's got to help.

Bin Laden won't be the last "leader" of this group, but his death brings the end of the group closer.

No I didn't, I think you may be under estimating the size of the extremist Muslim population and I don't just mean the ethnic variety either, there will be plenty more in due course if there isn't already..

**Swoop** · 2nd May 2011, 19:41

Somewhere there is an SF soldier with a fooken HUGE story to tell about firing the shot.
Also, a good claim for the millions of reward money offered...

Originally Posted by Number One

I'm sure they are well sorted in terms of a succession plan...I shudder to think what's to come now that he's become a martyr...

Probably not a lot.

His "middle management" structure has been systematically taken apart and replacements are hard to find. A lot of tallitubbies are now working for the druglords in Afganistan.