9/11 conspiracy debate

[marty]

and the 747s were much bigger and carried much more gas than the 707, the 707s were the biggest around when the buildings were designed.

OMG do some research boys.

1. Airliners are powered by JetA1 - kerosene basically. Much higher flash point and burns for much longer and slower than avgas.

2. They weren't 747's - 767-200's actually - quite a bit smaller than 74's

[Oblivion]

No, the instructor may have been MoW, but the course was organised through the DoL after one of their inspectors didn't like us carrying gelignite, diesel and detonators in the same vehicle.

Isn't that half the fun?

[Oblivion]

OMG do some research boys.

1. Airliners are powered by JetA1 - kerosene basically. Much higher flash point and burns for much longer and slower than avgas.

2. They weren't 747's - 767-200's actually - quite a bit smaller than 74's

How about you just tell them to build towers with Jenga and get them to crash a plane into the side of it?

Saves a truckload of arguing

Who doesn't like Jenga?

[scumdog]

Who plantd the bombs in those 3 buildings that day? Lest we forget 9/11 had an inside hand involved. Buildings don't fall at freefall speed without having the path cleared below the falling matter. FULLSTOP.

Wottafuckinloadofshit...

[Woodman]

So how many towers fell down? I thought there was just 2?

[ducatilover]

So how many towers fell down? I thought there was just 2?

Three, towers 1 and 2 then tower 7.

[pete376403]

They didn't find much of the "plane" that hit the pentagon, either...

[Oscar]

They didn't find much of the "plane" that hit the pentagon, either...

Yes they did.



This bits even got part of the airline logo on it:

[Oscar]

Three, towers 1 and 2 then tower 7.

The others (3,4,5 & 6) were so badly damaged that they had to be demolished.

[shrub]

Yes they did.

This bits even got part of the airline logo on it:

Looks to me like part of a Suzuki Katana

[MIXONE]

The Don will tell us the truth when he gets the top job.

[Maki]

Let me see, we are supposed to believe that a steel frame building, WTC7 collapsed at free fall speed because some debris hit it? (This was announced on the BBC BEFORE it actually happened.) Steel frame buildings can burn, untill all that is left standing is the steel frame. This has happened many times. Spontaneous collapse due to debris only appears to have happened once, if you believe that "conspiracy". (The owner of WTC7, Silverstein, actually admitted that it had been demolished, "pulled" in his exact wording but sheep would rather believe in their theories.)

We are supposed to believe that $2.3 trillion USD disappeared from the Pentagon budget just before 911 and no one knows what happened to it, as announced by Donald Rumsfeld. Now I wonder, could Bin Laden some how have gotten his grubby hands on that money to finance his terror? If you can believe some of this other stuff I am sure you can believe that.

War games/exercises were being run on 911 by they US government that totaly confused air traffic control and air defenses. You are expected to believe that this was a coincidence, or maybe you think Bin Laden used mind controll to organize and cause US governement officials to conduct the exercises at a convenient time...

Hi tech airliners were navigated at high speed, at times through manouvers that were outside their design envelope by incompetents who could hardly land a Cessna (experienced pilots acknowledge that this is impossible, but sheep don't believe in "conspiracy theories" so this is what MUST have happened).

The whole operation was run from a cave in Afghanistan.

Amazingly most sheep believe what they are supposed to believe. That makes them very easy to control and eventually slaughter... Mmmmm, lamb chops...

[Jantar]

You obviously haven't looked at the details very well.

Let me see, we are supposed to believe that a steel frame building, WTC7 collapsed at free fall speed because some debris hit it? (This was announced on the BBC BEFORE it actually happened.)

This is a myth. None of the buildings collapsed at free fall speed as evidenced by the video footage showing debris falling faster than the buildings. It was not announced on BBC before the event. The BBC anounced it after the event, but showed footage of the collapse while they were announcing it.

Steel frame buildings can burn, untill all that is left standing is the steel frame. This has happened many times. Spontaneous collapse due to debris only appears to have happened once, if you believe that "conspiracy". (The owner of WTC7, Silverstein, actually admitted that it had been demolished, "pulled" in his exact wording but sheep would rather believe in their theories.)

What was "pulled" wasn't the building, it was the fire fighters who were in danger who were pulled out. http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Silverstein's Quote:

"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

-Fact which is undisputed by either side, he was talking to the fire commander

-Fact which is undisputed by either side, both are not in the demolition business

Silverstein's spokesperson, Mr. McQuillan, later clarified:

"In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building."

We are supposed to believe that $2.3 trillion USD disappeared from the Pentagon budget just before 911 and no one knows what happened to it, as announced by Donald Rumsfeld. Now I wonder, could Bin Laden some how have gotten his grubby hands on that money to finance his terror? If you can believe some of this other stuff I am sure you can believe that.

War games/exercises were being run on 911 by they US government that totaly confused air traffic control and air defenses. You are expected to believe that this was a coincidence, or maybe you think Bin Laden used mind controll to organize and cause US governement officials to conduct the exercises at a convenient time...

Hi tech airliners were navigated at high speed, at times through manouvers that were outside their design envelope by incompetents who could hardly land a Cessna (experienced pilots acknowledge that this is impossible, but sheep don't believe in "conspiracy theories" so this is what MUST have happened).

The whole operation was run from a cave in Afghanistan.

Amazingly most sheep believe what they are supposed to believe. That makes them very easy to control and eventually slaughter... Mmmmm, lamb chops...

These claims are news to me. Do you have a reference?

[Maki]

"These claims are news to me. Do you have a reference?"

There are plenty out there if you want to find them. If you care about the truth, find it for yourself. You won't believe me or my references anyway and neither should you, any more than you believe the official nonsense being circulated about 911...

Everything I mentioned is common knowledge, reported by the mainstream media. I wonder how thngs like the 2.3 trillion dollars missing could have bypassed the brains of so many...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU
"according to some estimates we can not track 2.3 trillion dollars."

This might also interest you:

http://www.communitycurrency.org/robin.html
"He even received a letter of commendation for his role in dealing with an actual hijacking. When it became clear that there hadn’t been a systems failure of any kind on the morning of September 11th, Hordon was certain that something had gone terribly wrong within the upper echelons of authority. A pilot (third level air carrier) as well as an ATC, he is well versed on in-flight emergency protocol. He is also adamant that if these procedures had been followed on 9/11 not one of the hijacked planes would have reached their targets.


“I’m sorry but American 11 should have been intercepted over southwest Connecticut—bang, done deal.”
According to Hordon, air emergencies requiring scrambles, or “flushes,” from fighter jets occur 50 to 150 times a year.


“It’s routine. At Otis AFB we would have practice exercises two or three times a year. We’d flush aircraft, get the B-52’s up, get the tankers up, get the fighters up. Just out of Otis there’d be twenty, thirty fighter jets. And on 9/11 there were plenty of fighters as well. They were just diverted over the ocean, tied up in drills, etc.”

[Maki]

With respect to the capability of the aircraft and pilots, don't take my word for it, listen to some real pilots:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHLiMl7u8R0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm58c...eature=related

Experienced airline pilots could NOT hit the buildings unless they slowed down to almost landing speeds. But of course you believe that Osamas minions with no large aircraft flight experience hit those buildings at speeds outside the performance envelope of the aircraft...

Like I said, some will believe whatever they are wanted to believe. It has been proven time and time again...