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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Suzuki are a bit of a mystery. The V4 is a solid engine (despite what crasher says) and isn't the cause of their problems in the past few years. .
    Suzuki will certainly go bigger IF they stay I reckon. They couldn't even get through the season with the engine allocation, and were the only manufacturer to have to have extra engines. So the v-four ain't that solid. Going bigger will lower the rev range, and hopefully add reliability. Maybe with the extra torque the bigger engine makes, their cruder electronics might not be such a draw back either...as maybe (we live in hope), the bigger engines will promote more rear wheel steering.

    I read Rossi was impressed with next years Ducati for that reason.

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    Suzuki were allowed more engines because they haven't won a dry race for more than 2 years. Which meant they've been trying to use more horsepower to help overcome the problems they've been having but that makes them more fragile. So to make sure Suzuki can participate for the rest of the season the rest of the teams etc agreed that they should be allowed more engines.

    Suzuki aren't stupid enough to stick with a design for years if it's a dog. Their problems are that the entire bike only works well within a narrowly defined set of conditions. When those conditions occur during a race they do well. But more often then not the races aren't held in conditions that suit the bike.

    "They're doing shit cos they were awesome when they used inline engines" ignores all the other ingredients needed to make a winning team. They don't have the R&D budget they need, there are fewer personal now, lead times for manufacturing new parts is significantly longer .... the list is very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Suzuki aren't stupid enough to stick with a design for years if it's a dog.

    "They're doing shit cos they were awesome when they used inline engines" ignores all the other ingredients needed to make a winning team. They don't have the R&D budget they need, there are fewer personal now, lead times for manufacturing new parts is significantly longer .... the list is very long.
    Your second part answers your first part. It's not that they're stupid, they're just stuck with what they have due to budget and the lack of.

    And I've never said

    "They're doing shit cos they were awesome when they used inline engines"

    Cause they never have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Your second part answers your first part. It's not that they're stupid, they're just stuck with what they have due to budget and the lack of.

    And I've never said

    "They're doing shit cos they were awesome when they used inline engines"

    Cause they never have!
    Sorry, I vaguely recall something about Superbikes/Sports bikes as something you pointed at and saying they're using inline 4's and how well they do elsewhere etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Sorry, I vaguely recall something about Superbikes/Sports bikes as something you pointed at and saying they're using inline 4's and how well they do elsewhere etc.
    Nah...I said they should simply ditch the v-four and build a hot rod GSXR based engine. Cheaper, and probably just as powerful, and it's technology they've been good at for decades. Bet we can agree on one thing though mate...the Rizla chicks in their police uniforms are the hottest in the pits!

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    Last year the Interwetten Moto2 team had a chick with the most smoking hot arse on the planet. But the Rizla girls always look damn hot with their uniforms and hand cuffs lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    But the Rizla girls always look damn hot with their uniforms and hand cuffs lol
    Last year when Rach and I were in Valencia, I was hoping to be arrested by one of them. Obviously wasn't naughty enough.

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    Does Rach know about these fantasies of yours?? lol
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    She's a fan of the Rizzla girls too mate!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Does Rach know about these fantasies of yours?? lol
    She took these pics...Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
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    Re the rizzlaa girls photo I can feel a caption contest coming on

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerracer View Post
    Re the rizzlaa girls photo I can feel a caption contest coming on
    They're wearing shin guards, what's the worst anyone could come up with ..... oh right
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerracer View Post
    Re the rizzlaa girls photo I can feel a caption contest coming on
    Look like the one on the left is threatening the other with her batton. Warming it up for her even...

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    Will any of it lure Kawasaki back? I guess the issue is they're a factory team, right?
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    current motogp satellite teams will not be crt teams if they are on motogp bikes as we know it. If they switch to something else maybe depending what.

    Kawasaki could come back as a CRT, but it would be very touchy, and they wouldn't do well, as CRT status can be yanked with a majority vote.

    CRT teams will be there on low tech (read prodn based) motors with nothing special in them (thus the fuel and extra motors). They wont be championship winning teams, but since when have there been more than 3-4 of those, so thats the factories. Hopefully the CRT teams will be allowed to get close enough to give them a run for the end of the podium or the odd race.

    will have to wait and see.


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