$15 minimum wage?

**Maha** · 23rd May 2011, 16:28

Originally Posted by schrodingers cat

In my experience, the bulk of minimum wage workers aren't even worth that.

They cost you a fortune in fuck ups and general poor performance.

Employers (on the whole) aren't bogie monsters.
They take 100% of the risk.
The employee gets paid to turn up and a slew of legislation protects them as they drag a business down.

This is all true in alot of cases...
If you are not on a minimum wage, you obviously have skills that allow you to enjoy a proper job/career/trade earning better money.
I scan my own shopping at the Supermarket and I consider myself more efficient at it than those in lanes 1-2-3-4 etc.

**\m/** · 23rd May 2011, 16:47

If you are sick of your dead end shithole job you should quit. Thats what I did, I was sick of being overworked, underpaid and treated like shit so I left and got myself a decent job with decent pay.

**slofox** · 23rd May 2011, 17:18

I have been self-employed for over 25 years. I have been an employer in two businesses.

I have never paid minimum wages - always well above. (Except to myself of course - I've always been well under minimum wage...

) I have always felt I got value for the money I paid. BUT. You have to select your staff carefully.

Like they say, pay peanuts, get monkeys.

**The Everlasting** · 23rd May 2011, 17:25

Originally Posted by slofox

Like they say, pay peanuts, get monkeys.

Maybe if you pay cashews,you may get slightly smarter monkeys?

**slofox** · 23rd May 2011, 17:26

Originally Posted by The Everlasting

Maybe if you pay cashews,you may get slightly smarter monkeys?

Hey - yeah! Never thought of that!

**Maha** · 23rd May 2011, 17:35

Originally Posted by slofox

Hey - yeah! Never thought of that!

Just mind the chocolate coated ones....

**AllanB** · 23rd May 2011, 17:38

Several responses spring to mind.

1. Labour was in power for 9 years - surely they should have done this over 3 years ago, not announce it as a unfunded election bribe. Sick of their moaning already!

2. Any increase in the minimum wage tends to have a flow-on affect to wages above them. LEts face it if you are on 15-16 per now and some new kid on 13 suddenly gets $15 you are going to bet your arse your boss will hear about it!

3. I hate election year. Wakers making bull-shit promises that they can not realistically fund without screwing someone else. All parties. Moaning, bullshitting and lying.

**DrunkenMistake** · 23rd May 2011, 17:59

Meh its just a vote stealer, wouldnt happen,

I work in a super market and you would think oh yah min wage.
Well funny story, our company sets their own minimum wage, or 'starting' wage, which is $14, and in June I believe its going up to $15, in saying that unless you move up the management food chain you dont get any other pay rises.

**steve_t** · 23rd May 2011, 18:09

The other thing is that with increases in minimum wage, I've always increased my staff's wage rates to maintain the same distance above it, at the time. I wonder how bike shops and other small businesses will fare with an increased min wage rate.

**JimO** · 23rd May 2011, 18:17

Originally Posted by steve_t

I wonder how bike shops and other small businesses will fare with an increased min wage rate.

well obviously prices would have to go up but then more people would complain about the cost of their stock and buy it on ebay

**sil3nt** · 23rd May 2011, 18:22

Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake

Meh its just a vote stealer, wouldnt happen,

I work in a super market and you would think oh yah min wage.
Well funny story, our company sets their own minimum wage, or 'starting' wage, which is $14, and in June I believe its going up to $15, in saying that unless you move up the management food chain you dont get any other pay rises.

Progressive i am assuming? I used to work for them. Pay was always slightly above minimum. I now work for Foodstuffs and pay is minimum and they really do not like to move from that.

**JimO** · 23rd May 2011, 18:31

Originally Posted by sil3nt

Progressive i am assuming? I used to work for them. Pay was always slightly above minimum. I now work for Foodstuffs and pay is minimum and they really do not like to move from that.

why stay??

**sil3nt** · 23rd May 2011, 18:37

Originally Posted by JimO

why stay??

You seem to think anyone can just leave a job and walk into a higher paying job...

I am staying because it is part time work while i study.

There are quite a number of skilled staff working at this supermarket because there is nothing out there for them.