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    IP blocker?

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    It has also crossed my mind what liability I would have if somebody loaded a virus onto one of my computers which allowed them to download from it remotely. They could in theory control my network & go mental.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

    However in short:

    You can securely download files from it (SSL encrypted so no one knows what you’re downloading) also way faster than torrents.

    Ok so 1 you have to get an account to search usenet (www.nzbmatrix.com) costs $10 or so covers you for life to SEARCH for the files.

    Then you have to get an account for a usenet provider (www.astraweb.com) I buy 180 GB batches for about $25 (all US dollars), that lets me download whatever I find.

    Then you get a program like altbinz (http://www.altbinz.net/)

    which actually downloads the files.

    Boom Done.

    I have always said I would be willing to pay for it...
    ...Just no one ever wanted to take my money!!!
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    Why do the movie and music industry think they're losing sales due to downloads?

    It couldn't be due to the fact they make pretty much utter crap these days....

    I'd pay $15 to see a good movie at the flicks or pay $20 for a album if it was what I wanted.

    What happens if I invited my makes around to listen to 'War of the worlds', will Jeff Wayne come after me for loss of profits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones View Post
    What happens if I invited my makes around to listen to 'War of the worlds', will Jeff Wayne come after me for loss of profits?

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    Can I bring a blank disc and make a copy?
    you wont lose your original!!!

    Only rule I have for downloading is...
    "No NZ films or music"

    I will pay for these.

    90% or more of my downloading is TV shows anyway. Take to long to get to NZ
    and some never make it here.
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    LOL...wel thought out this was eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyegasm View Post
    Only rule I have for downloading is...
    "No NZ films or music"
    Not worth the net or HD space

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyegasm View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

    However in short:

    You can securely download files from it (SSL encrypted so no one knows what you’re downloading) also way faster than torrents.

    Ok so 1 you have to get an account to search usenet (www.nzbmatrix.com) costs $10 or so covers you for life to SEARCH for the files.

    Then you have to get an account for a usenet provider (www.astraweb.com) I buy 180 GB batches for about $25 (all US dollars), that lets me download whatever I find.

    Then you get a program like altbinz (http://www.altbinz.net/)

    which actually downloads the files.

    Boom Done.

    I have always said I would be willing to pay for it...
    ...Just no one ever wanted to take my money!!!
    Is Astraweb normally pretty uptodate with english and US TV programs? these are all i really want as there so much stuff that never makes it to NZ. I have heard that easynews.com is also a good place but i like the sound of buying the 180gb without having a monthly renewal

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    How are they going to know?

    I currently do work which does gigs of data over different ports. Likewise whenever I bittorrent I always tick "randomize port selection on startup".
    How will they tell the difference from my work to a bittorrent????

    They would have to sit there an wireshark my whole connection to figure out what is going on. Even if they did that they have no idea on whether the bittorrent was illegitimate or not. As torrent servers have legit stuff too.

    Whole thing is a bit silly really. I await to see it not get enforced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    How are they going to know?
    Packet inspection?

    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    I currently do work which does gigs of data over different ports. Likewise whenever I bittorrent I always tick "randomize port selection on startup".
    How will they tell the difference from my work to a bittorrent????
    The data for your work isn't carried in bittorrent protocol packets?

    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Even if they did that they have no idea on whether the bittorrent was illegitimate or not.
    They don't have to do anything, we've written them software to do this for them.

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    I await to see it not get enforced.
    Here's hoping

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Packet inspection?

    The data for your work isn't carried in bittorrent protocol packets?

    They don't have to do anything, we've written them software to do this for them.

    Here's hoping
    At 1000 packets a second to 4 million people.

    Its computer suicide.

    I currently kill a wireshark capture PC every 3 months. At thats only reading information on a 1.1mbs link.

    I am guessing at best they will do "random sampling". If that.

    Actually I am not setting heights high. It took me a week to figure out that internet.telecom.com apn was never going to work with dyndns. Telecom still don't know this.
    (fyi use direct.telecom.com as it bypasses telecom's own firewall. Vodafone no need to worry almost any connection using the typical #99* will work).

    So yeah first letter you receive from your ISP ask one simple question:

    Prove it!
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    What we need is for all the computer geeks to increase torrent traffic three-fold for a few months but do it all with legit, legal stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    What we need is for all the computer geeks to increase torrent traffic three-fold for a few months but do it all with legit, legal stuff
    my understanding is they're just looking at NZ IP's off specific torrents they're not actually monitoring ISP traffic per say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    my understanding is they're just looking at NZ IP's off specific torrents they're not actually monitoring ISP traffic per say
    Yeh that's what I thought, simple and effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    At 1000 packets a second to 4 million people.

    Its computer suicide.
    Not computer suicide, it's embedded, doesn't run on PCs, runs on CPU specifically designed for the purpose, much like a managed switch.

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