RS125 rolling chassis for Moto 3 conversion

[Crasherfromwayback]

Make sure it doesn't end up a bucket. It's all legal and it's a free world, but in my opinion a technical moral crime. Too many of those beautiful handbuilt GP chassis are ending up there lately. Like turning a Manx Norton engine into a workshop compressor

Agree 100%

What an arse. Check Nigel Duff's bucket before commenting on RS buckets. There's others that would put "real" bikes to shame.

Think you're missing his point.

[bucketracer]

Make sure it doesn't end up a bucket. It's all legal and it's a free world, but in my opinion a technical moral crime. Too many of those beautiful handbuilt GP chassis are ending up there lately. Like turning a Manx Norton engine into a workshop compressor

Get real ....... Buckets is where its at, there are more Bucket riders than any other RR class.

Also there is more engine tuning knowledge and development effort applied to Buckets than in any other class too.

Check the #6 and ESE threads in the Bucket forum. Everyone else is just Babies ....... compaired to the Bucket tuners.

Good engines deserve good frames.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Get real ....... Buckets is where its at, there are more Bucket riders than any other RR class.

Also there is more engine tuning knowledge and development effort applied to Buckets than in any other class too.

Check the #6 and ESE threads in the Bucket forum. Everyone else is just Babies ....... compaired to the Bucket tuners.

Good engines deserve good frames.

I agree there are some awesome engine tuners involved in buckets. But they should get as good at building their own chassis as well then.

[TZ350]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fTE6AfPbUg



Team ESE Bucketers are pretty serious, they even have their own dyno ..........



Some of the better GP125 and 600 riders (and no doubt others) run a Bucket to keep their race fitness up.



These are Graphs of the above RS framed air cooled 1978 Suzuki GP125 running a 24mm carb and testing different pipes.

[crazy man]

Get real ....... Buckets is where its at, there are more Bucket riders than any other RR class.

Also there is more engine tuning knowledge and development effort applied to Buckets than in any other class too.

Check the #6 and ESE threads in the Bucket forum. Everyone else is just Babies ....... compaired to the Bucket tuners.

Good engines deserve good frames.

to me its getting out of the character of what bucket racing is all about

[Crasherfromwayback]

to me its getting out of the character of what bucket racing is all about

That's how I see it.

[TZ350]

to me its getting out of the character of what bucket racing is all about

How does a 30hp Suzuki from the 70's not fit with the spirt of F4 racing? Any way what was F4 and F5 Minature Road Race all about .......... if it wasn't innovation and putting together the best on track unit you could.

[F5 Dave]

to me its getting out of the character of what bucket racing is all about

So no to chequebook racing then?

That is a build it rather than buy it ethos & is to be admired.

. . . . Having said that Scott, if we peeked in your garage, would we see the Hot Pepsi rep TF100 Ziffle built? The fast but fragile RD50 Sales Built, the NZ speed record holding GT50 again Sales, the GP winning RG50 VB built, the hub centre steered K100 C.Wheeler built?

Have I missed any?

When I updated my RG50 I looked at what I could do with the std frame having gone down a dead end with rear suspension & lookiing to start again. A chance $300 '91 RS frame was a 'why wouldn't you' cheap option. I bought an old bike with RS wheels some years later for $150. & people call me a big spender.

[bucketracer]

to me its getting out of the character of what bucket racing is all about

Scott, if we peeked in your garage, would we see the Hot Pepsi rep TF100 Ziffle built? The fast but fragile RD50 Sales Built, the NZ speed record holding GT50 again Sales, the GP winning RG50 VB built, the hub centre steered K100 C.Wheeler built?

Fawwwwk buying someone elses finished Bucket and not building your own, thats not what bucket racing has ever been about.

[Henk]

to me its getting out of the character of what bucket racing is all about

Maybe, however it is bucket RACING and at the end of the day if it falls within the letter of the rules rather than the spirit it's no less legal. People also said FXRs were against the spirit of bucket racing and they have pretty much saved the class, in Auckland at least.

[crazy man]

How does a 30hp Suzuki from the 70's not fit with the spirt of F4 racing? Any way what was F4 and F5 Minature Road Race all about .......... if it wasn't innovation and putting together the best on track unit you could.

l do not care about the engines as long as its not a gp one

[TZ350]

People also said FXRs were against the spirit of bucket racing and they have pretty much saved the class, in Auckland at least.

Thank God for the FXR's, bigger fields and more people, it would be a lonely race class without them.

[crazy man]

So no to chequebook racing then?

That is a build it rather than buy it ethos & is to be admired.

. . . . Having said that Scott, if we peeked in your garage, would we see the Hot Pepsi rep TF100 Ziffle built? The fast but fragile RD50 Sales Built, the NZ speed record holding GT50 again Sales, the GP winning RG50 VB built, the hub centre steered K100 C.Wheeler built?

Have I missed any?

When I updated my RG50 I looked at what I could do with the std frame having gone down a dead end with rear suspension & lookiing to start again. A chance $300 '91 RS frame was a 'why wouldn't you' cheap option. I bought an old bike with RS wheels some years later for $150. & people call me a big spender.

l only have the gt50 just borrowed the rest. theTF100 Ziffle built engine went bang years ago. had to build a new engine for nealy every bucket iv bought because all build so shit

[crazy man]

Thank God for the FXR's, bigger fields and more people, it would be a lonely race class without them.

l like the fxr150 good for someone that wants to ride with not to much hassle

[TZ350]

l do not care about the engines as long as its not a gp one

Building frames does't interest me, we tried but the original Suzuki GP frame was just not going to ever cut the mustard. I am using an FZR250 frame now but look enviously at the Honda GP units, they are such neat looking outfits.