RS125 rolling chassis for Moto 3 conversion

[Ivan]

again a quick glance at photo of av that a pre 95 rs??? like I say I dont mind those bikes they are old and no one uses them competitvly at nz level but this rs steve has is still capable of front running with the right engine in it, but a go cart track this late model handling looses all potential do you know what I mean? a 93 rs chassis and a 98 rs chassis on a proper circuit the 98 is gonna blitz all over it but in buckets a 93 and 98 are going to have the same handling basically as you cant use them to there potential, Av probably swears by it cause she is used to racing a RS

[bucketracer]

Hampton Downs Pukekohe and Taupo spring to mind and our ESE engines are making reasonable hp .............

So I think the later RS's will get a reasonable workout chasing Street Stocks and 250 Pro Lights and on track days probably diss a few big bikes too, just for fun mind.

[Ivan]

also im not trying to pick any trouble here,

I love buckets, they gave me a start into racing I love the racing it produces,

[F5 Dave]

I'm off out to buy a Britten frame and chuck a Gixxer thou motor in it.

I'm going to burgle clubman's !!

Might involve some cutting, grinding etc to make it all work.....

Ahh go on, you'll never finish it old man. I can see the trade me add already

Besides Clubmans at the pointy end these days might be a bit embarrassing. I hear its not in the spirit of Clubmans anymore. Now lets get onto these Bears wankas. 4 valve engines? Heck when I grew up one valve was enough. And that was on my Powervalve. Which incidentally I want to be allowed to race in Bears. Bloody racist beggers.

Ok what is up with the 9-12yr old Trailbike class? Bloody national championship class? Why - I think we should all have to race trailbikes, with some of these flips Ivan is on about.

Sorry this is where I came in I think

[Buckets4Me]

wasnt aimed at you man, theres a few people on this site who like to diss me any chance they have

it was probably aimed at me.I read the thread where IVAN tryed to butcher an rs and make it into a decent bucket and failed!

I can see why he wouldn't want a nice gp frame to go threw that again
but a race bike is a race bike and just because he is stink at it dosent mean other people arn't

racing is racing and I like it (not fast) but I do like having a nice bike and riding it as best I can

If i dont do it justice tuff titty (there are a lot of other Real races that dont do there bikes justice either)

[Buckets4Me]

Well that shows how long hes been around then dunnit!!! and furthermore to his claims,Over the years Ive seen plenty of as he puts it "proper racers" get on a bucket and win straight away,Including Dave Cole,Mike Perrin and myself back in 89,Still he was prolly getting his butt wiped by mummy back then,What a winner!!Havent noticed anybody jump off a bucketracer and win a proper race immediately either by the way,Can anybody name one????

I think 4 have been named

[Buckets4Me]

Maybe Aussies got it right when they adopted buckets from us. Their rules specifically require original components only. IE same motors /frame/wheels/forks

what they run around with 80cc mx motors in rs frames ??

dosent sound like same engine frame wheels forks to me ?

[F5 Dave]

Of course they did,Jimmy,Pete Sales were among the founders of bucket racing,

Progress!!!Whats the difference between allowing Grandprix chassis and Grandprix engines???

progress was "Wheels" centre hub steering bucket,Grandprix chassis are just cheating cause you dont have a clue how build/modify the roadbased frame,

You do realise "Bucket racing" is a shortened version of "Bucket of shit " racing dont you,It was intended too be EXACTLY what pete has described

Yeah Jason was doing this 20 odd yrs ago too.
OK why don't we all just agree that proper racers of real bikes are all much better than Bucket racers & are all much braver & have much much larger penis's than we do & whilst sometimes we are allowed at the grown ups meetings we all stand in corners to change cowering to hide our ever so small appendages.

I'd like to collectively apologise for our non valid sport where grown men ride undersize bikes. I'd also like to apologise for appearing to have fun year after year attending meetings where $40 will get you racing five or six times a day, or 12 if you have a 50 as well. We understand that this is bad form & can't help ourselves even though we have to live with the shame. Further we'd like to thank the real racers for selling us your old slicks that somehow seem to last another 4 seasons racing the above schedule until they are given to someone starting out. We are genuinely pond scum.

No need to feel sorry for me. I've built and ridden two stroke race bikes that've won national championships. Eyes sight's pretty good too.

Even after all that masturbation?

That being said, at least we can look down on sad old was-been ex 250 prodi racers who now have to make up for their inadequacies by dating beautiful young girls half their age, its pathetic, at least we don't have to endure that. We'll have a whip around for a food parcel or something.

[Ivan]

it was probably aimed at me.I read the thread where IVAN tryed to butcher an rs and make it into a decent bucket and failed!

I can see why he wouldn't want a nice gp frame to go threw that again
but a race bike is a race bike and just because he is stink at it dosent mean other people arn't

racing is racing and I like it (not fast) but I do like having a nice bike and riding it as best I can

If i dont do it justice tuff titty (there are a lot of other Real races that dont do there bikes justice either)

Were did I aim it at you???? it was aimed at people who want to insult my riding when i try say something on here not aimed at guys tryna build bikes??? and were did I butcher an RS???? I have never ever butchered one ive never cut a RS Frame up I have had a 93 rs sold it to peter knapton along with a spare frame i looked at trying to bolt a rg motor in but had to cut frame so didnt want to ruin it so sold it with the 93 had a 96 rs still sitting in my shed today and a 98 which mr bagsaw now has, so dont know were i am meant to have butchered one???? I have built my own frame off an rs125 copying lengths angles etc but never butchered one

[Ivan]

if your talking about any buckets i attempted to build i was 14 years old then I wanted to be a mechanic I loved mucking around with bikes I hardly knew anything about them and had a KIDS yes at 14 your still a kid way of thinking, I didnt think about things i did it and tryed to learn from any mistakes older people found it funny to pick on me and laugh at my attempts so be it everyone starts somewere,

now im 21 and I think if you have ever seen our track record our bikes which i work on are faultless theres nothing wrong with them we never have track break downs or any faults I know guys like Shaun have seen our bikes and will be able to say we dont butcher things! I actually take that as an insult, consdering I have the NZ 125cc land speed records using the engine me and my dad built 1 sunday afternoon and my gearing and jetting recomendations on the day cant be to bad at running a bike, maybe i dont have flash workshops and know how to make 36hp but i still know how to put together a engine which is competitve and will gaurantee its not going to blow up either, I built my brothers 125 engine he could run with Avalon before he had his crash and went to 600s

[Ivan]

it was probably aimed at me.i read the thread where ivan tryed to butcher an rs and make it into a decent bucket and failed!

I can see why he wouldn't want a nice gp frame to go threw that again
But a race bike is a race bike and just because he is stink at it dosent mean other people arn't

racing is racing and i like it (not fast) but i do like having a nice bike and riding it as best i can

if i dont do it justice tuff titty (there are a lot of other real races that dont do there bikes justice either)

also read through i have never insulted buckets or the guys who build them and race them i have said i think a chassis like this has more potential to still be a nz title running bike in f3 or moto3. I have said my reasons as to why this is and i am not trying to fault you i am happy you enjoy racing i dont care how fast you are im not the fastest guy out there im proud you want a respectable looking bike i just think a late model rs frame is not suitable as a bucket frame i am not going to say why again i think 93 rs chassis are good and i dont mind them being used as they are no longer competive on fast tracks

[slowpoke]

Some pretty valid points from Ivan regarding the factthat RS frames are really not used to their full potential on a Kartsport track.

Yeah....nah. There are probably only a handful of people in NZ who can ride any machine to it's full potential. So what are the rest of us s'posed to do? Start building a shitload more go kart tracks 'cos most of us should never graduate from buckets, lol.

The Moto3 idea has some merit....but how do you justify chopping up a sexy frame for a class that isn't even raced in NZ?

DING! DING! We're deep into the middle rounds, with the Bucketeers ahead on points....

[Gigglebutton]

Quagmire reveles the secret to what he imagines is his success with the girls.

........ (sort of like passing up a one night stand, just because she is a little drunk.... if you don't take it, someone else will) ........

Self delusion, its a big bike thing I guess, as Buckets are the premier class, more riders, more bikes, more venues than any other Road Racing class.

[SS90]

I love how many of the people posting here have never actually won a race, but still
For some reason write like the high and mighty.

[SS90]

Quagmire reveles the secret to what he imagines is his success with the girls.



Self delusion, its a big bike thing I guess, as Buckets are the premier class, more riders, more bikes, more venues than any other Road Racing class.

What's the matter? Still emotionally scarred from the hotel incident? You where told to keep the blindfold on!

Considering I was racing buckets, 125's, 250's, F3, CAMS and BEARS, long before many of these guys where even embryos, my opinion is as valid as anyones.

I have seen quite a few changes in buckets over the years.