I suspect there are law graduates retiring shortly who have only ever known that gravy train. Would be a shame to stop it now the universities would have less places to send the graduates.
Watchful Old Bird
I suspect there are law graduates retiring shortly who have only ever known that gravy train. Would be a shame to stop it now the universities would have less places to send the graduates.
Psyclepath
Nope. "Crown" means the government, as in "Her Majesty's Government". When NZ became an independent nation, all the responsibilities of the UK as colonial power passed to our government.Originally Posted by avgas
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Anarchic Wild Child
The Queen is still offocially our Head of State - as in "her Majesty's Government" ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Anarchic Wild Child
No we don't condom random gun furing - but we do condone ceremonial gun firing ... like the 21-gun salute for her Majesty's birthday - some state visits - and gunfire at military funerals ..
The marae is not a public place .. it is owned by the locals ... so how can you be convicted for firing a gun into the ground on your own land?
Sure there is one law for all - would you be expected to be prosecuted if you fired a gun into the ground on your own land (provided it was not a defined urban area)? Shit - I shoot possums and rabbits on my own land and don't expect to be prosecuted. And neither did Tame or any other Tuhoe there ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
troglodytam extraordinaire
Some what a bit different, 21 gun salute fires blanks not live rounds.
Because he holds no firearm licence.
You would think that but you well know it isn't.
and what is this condom firing gun you speak of, kinky lot you natives.
Anarchic Wild Child
No I don't - it seems like white New Zealand ceremonies are fine - ours are not !!!
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
troglodytam extraordinaire
If he had blanks in the gun fine, but they were live rounds he fired.
Hardcore Biker
With the heat that this situation has generated, it's perhaps worth considering that if Tuhoe hadn't been disenfranchised (almost genocidally) from the political and social processes within NZ from the mid-19th century on, we wouldn't be having this discussion (and I use the term in it's most generous sense).
Aio ki te Aorangi
and no apology... that's just mean spirited.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
"channellling the Pleideans"
Just playing the devils advocate, but they refused to bow to their colonial conquerors, so, you know, fuck them. Your disenfranchised is my "sore loser".
*I do feel the need** to state that is not my opinion, just an alternative view put forth for discussion purposes
**which is of course a sad indictment of our politically correct times
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Just faidin away!
There is no them and us in NZ .... there is only us, "all" of us!
That is my perception and therefore my reality ... to think otherwise is tantamount to "treason"! (IMHO)
What we think about invariably happens, so I am thinking positively about our countries future!("my" thoughts and actions are the only ones that I control)
Trying to be a good dog
Waihope was only a marginal action in terms of public attention and give a fuck meter
Symbolic actions like one tree hill, flag shooting, can become immortalised in history. Unless they die away from public attention
Its prudent for the crown to bury this and carry on as usual. Fucking communists
Churches are monuments to self importance
Anarchic Wild Child
Sorry Henry - I never meant to imply that at all .. I believe I prefaced that sentence with "I don't think I personally like him ..." for very much the reasons you point out. I make no excuse for that behaviour and I'm totally disgusted by it. Oppresion on the basis of colour, sex, religion is all wrong - Tame can't take the moral high ground on colour and then treat woman like he does ...
Hmm .. yes .. and no ... I personally don't believe in "rights". It's a legal fiction. People have no "rights" the whole history of this planet proves that people only get what they fight for. "Rights" is one of the current weapons in the fight. As far as I am concerned, it's a bullshit weapon used by idiots who won't stand up and fight.In my view, that is utterly wrong. Human rights trump the "rights" of a subgroup every time.
No. I think a Tribunal to look at grievances based on past events and righting those wrongs is the way to go. Only if we do somethign about these grievances, which have a basis in the past but continue today, can we move forward into the new century.In a larger context, that is why I believe that the sickly white liberal guilt that allowed the Waitangi Tribunal to start, to flourish, and now to become a gravy train for a dusky elite is entirely the wrong approach,
Tho' I do agree it has become a gravy train for some. Not sure what can be done about that - our whole legal system is a gravy train for lawyers and judges.
Can you give me a definition of tribalism? I'm of the opposite opinion, but let's see if we are talking about the same thing.and my own view is that "tribalism" is not a fit concept for any group of people to move forward in the 21st century.
Yeah - I'd agree with that ALL politicians tend to be self-serving bullshit artists. Fuck all gets down to the peope on the ground.I also honestly think that a politician is a politician no matter what colour their skin. Lot of bullshit, lot of talking up "benefits for the people" but fuck all trickling down to actual punters walking down the street, brown black green pink or white.
So, um, there. Thats what I think.
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Anarchic Wild Child
Fuck Political Correctness - we either have free speach or we don't and in my book free speach allows you to say what you want without need for qualification .. if that upsets the fucking PC liberal wankers then so be it. On the other hand, I think we should moderate what we say to each other so as not to upset each other - but that's a long way from supporting the sort of bullshit that gets chuck around by the wimping liberals. But then I want to qualify that too because I'm pretty good at saying things that upset people - especially wimping liberal wankers ...
Yes BUT (you just hate those sentces I know) .. "Us" needs to be inclusive - not just inclusive of our European-derived cultures, but also inclusive of our Māori cultures. At present we feel shut out BECAUSE the European-derived cultures stop us living our culture.
Excellent. In some ways we agree. But our fututre has to be inclusive of our cultures, not exclusively European-derived.What we think about invariably happens, so I am thinking positively about our countries future!
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Psyclepath
You do understand what "Constitutionally Limited Monarchy" means, don't you? Just checking.
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
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