The new file sharing laws

[2Seat_Terror]

My IP address changes everytime I restart / reset the router, so do IPs that I had X number of moons ago get tracked...?
Not all torrents are illegal files shared, FWIW. A lot of people seem to have missed that (in the gubbermint for instance).

[Winston001]

Not all torrents are illegal files shared, FWIW. A lot of people seem to have missed that (in the gubbermint for instance).

Not really. Thats the very first thing TUANZ and others said to the government. And if the file is legitimate you haven't broken the law.

[bogan]

Just use PFTP

[jonbuoy]

Can they detect encrypted traffic?

[Spuds1234]

Can they detect encrypted traffic?

If your referring to the ISP's detecting your encrypted traffic, well you dont need to worry about that.

What you need to worry about is a copyright holder detecting your IP address downloading copyright material. Once they do that they just send off a request to your ISP to send you a letter.

[jonbuoy]

If your referring to the ISP's detecting your encrypted traffic, well you dont need to worry about that.

What you need to worry about is a copyright holder detecting your IP address downloading copyright material. Once they do that they just send off a request to your ISP to send you a letter.

So as long as your IP is connected to another IP seeding copywrite material thats enough - even though the torrent traffic between the two are encrypted - how can they prove you weren´t legitimately downloading another legal torrent file from the same IP if they can´t identify and decrypt exactly what you are receiving?

[Spuds1234]

If I were a movie studio and I wanted to find out who was downloading my movies, it would be pretty easy to download your own movie and then just log the IP's that try and download it from you.

Perhaps they do it like this, perhaps they dont (they probably dont), but Im fairly certain it would be pretty easy for them to do.

[Spuds1234]

Encrypting torrent traffic between the torrent clients only stops your ISP from seeing what your downloading with packet inspection.

The source your getting the information from still needs to know what to send you.

[Gremlin]

Can they detect encrypted traffic?

Of course they can see encrypted traffic. Can they see what's inside the encrypted traffic? Of course not (us little IT nerds wouldn't be too happy if our encrypted connections could be read by any ol person would we?)

how can they prove you weren´t legitimately downloading another legal torrent file from the same IP if they can´t identify and decrypt exactly what you are receiving?

When you are connected to a torrent, you have an IP that uniquely identifies you (well, how else would you get the traffic huh?). It doesn't matter what other torrents you are connected to... you are connected to THAT one.

[Winston001]

So as long as your IP is connected to another IP seeding copywrite material thats enough - even though the torrent traffic between the two are encrypted - how can they prove you weren´t legitimately downloading another legal torrent file from the same IP if they can´t identify and decrypt exactly what you are receiving?

I stand to be corrected but I think as with any crime, you are accused and have the right to defend yourself. If you download a legitimate file (people like Peter Jackson must transfer GBs daily) your pc will record the time and date. Of course you'll have to disclose the legitimate file just as you'd need to prove lawful ownership of a motorcycle the police believed to be stolen.

[Winston001]

Incidentally, are there any stats showing a drop in traffic to NZ?

[2Seat_Terror]

Orcon claim a 10% drop in P2P traffic.

[steve_t]

Orcon claim a 10% drop in P2P traffic.

I would say that's on the low side

[avgas]

Haha lol,let us know if he gets in trouble.

Hotels that offer WIFI now have the following notice on their invoices:


According to the Copyright (Infringing File Sharing) Amendment Act 2011 that became enforced law starting on the 1st of September 2011,please be advised that you are responsible for your Internet Usage. If you requested an Internet access,your username and password will be recorded at reception and monitored for any illegal activity in terms of unauthorized downloads or uploading of music,software and any other kind of files.


The whole paragraph is in Bold text,so they must be trying to cover themselves.

That's nothing new. Read my sig.

[avgas]

Orcon claim a 10% drop in P2P traffic.

Hmmmm I wonder how they get that stat?......

I recently got an interesting email saying I used 5gb of data on port 1025 from a certain I.T. department. They said they would investigate and see if I was breaking the law.

Should have told them I was downloading illegal porn while playing blackjack.........but was honest and told them it was man made DNP storm.

So I doubt anyone will be charged with the new laws. Its just a feel good thing for the govt.