MotoGP Valencia...

**carbonhed** · 8th November 2011, 07:40

I was gutted with the first corner pile up taking out four of the potential podium contenders but then it just seemed to sum up Ducati's year... top three Duc's fail to complete first turn. Let's hope they get it back together for 2012.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 8th November 2011, 07:56

Stoner is now the complete racer I reckon. He can fuck off out front and win, he can stalk them from behind then win. He can win wet, dry and when it's both in the same race.

Only gonna get worse for the rest next year.

**DidJit** · 8th November 2011, 08:24

Originally Posted by pritch

Interesting post race comment from David Emmett of Motomatters, Ducati are moving to a narrower angle V for 2012.

Some very interesting snippets of information in his twitter feed...

Originally Posted by carbonhed

I was gutted with the first corner pile up...

Same.

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

... He can win wet, dry and when it's both in the same race. ...

**Cleve** · 8th November 2011, 18:26

I thought the whole Valencia thing was bizzare.
David Emmett summed it up best (as usual) on his website.http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/...ound_up_t.html
Paris Hilton on the podium getting the trophy. Terol the World Champ
Moto2 the usual craziness.
The first lap incident in MotoGP and me thinking oh dear this will be a bore fest only for it to be one of the more exciting races of the season with the closest finish of the year.
So Casey Stoner lead the first lap of the 800's (Qatar 2007) and the last lap of the 800's (Valencia 2011).

Glad that we have Summer here when the MotoGP season is on holiday.
What do those poor Europeans do??!!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 8th November 2011, 21:34

Casey Stoner is the undisputed CHAMPION of the 800cc era. End of Story.

Bet he can now tell Honda (and Yamaha etc etc) what he'd like to be paid in 2013.

He's earnt every cent.

**roogazza** · 9th November 2011, 07:22

Originally Posted by carbonhed

I was gutted with the first corner pile up taking out four of the potential podium contenders but then it just seemed to sum up Ducati's year... top three Duc's fail to complete first turn. Let's hope they get it back together for 2012.

My heart sank also.Those were the exact conditions for Rossi and the Ducati,for this year anyway.
Here's hoping the narrow 'V' is part of the answer and whatever (hopefully) they have improved on.
Motogp badly needs change, closer performing grids and with maybe 10 more.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th November 2011, 07:44

Originally Posted by roogazza

My heart sank also.Those were the exact conditions for Rossi and the Ducati,for this year anyway.
Here's hoping the narrow 'V' is part of the answer and whatever (hopefully) they have improved on.
Motogp badly needs change, closer performing grids and with maybe 10 more.

I see Suzuki let De Puniet ride the 800 against the Thous at Valencia. First time out, he was 4th quickest behind Pedrosa, Stoner and Spies. Nice work!!!

**CHOPPA** · 9th November 2011, 08:16

The CRT teams look like a bit of a joke at the moment

**roogazza** · 9th November 2011, 08:46

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

I see Suzuki let De Puniet ride the 800 against the Thous at Valencia. First time out, he was 4th quickest behind Pedrosa, Stoner and Spies. Nice work!!!

Yep saw that.
Maybe we'll see GP looking like Moto2 in a couple of years, seems to be going that way.
Did you win another $100 on Boner this year ? I saw Steve Sunday at breakfast and he isn't taking any more bets, quit while ahead, he reckons.

**SimJen** · 9th November 2011, 08:58

It was almost Spies race, good to see another bike than the Honda pushing for the lead!
0.015 secs is close!
The Honda's have got some serious pace, testing of the 2012 bikes show they still have the advantage at this early stage.
They seem to have everything covered, and no doubt the best electronics package around!

**scott411** · 9th November 2011, 09:10

as part of the group i was with we got a tour of the ducati two seater pits, and a quick glance though the ducati main pit from Randy Mamola, he said the biggest difference between the honda's and the rest was the gearbox, it was said that the gearbox alone is 750,000 euro and changes twice as quick as anything else, giving the honda a acceleration advantage,

**SimJen** · 9th November 2011, 09:16

yeah i've read that too, seemless shifts with instant changes!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th November 2011, 09:32

Originally Posted by roogazza

Yep saw that.
Maybe we'll see GP looking like Moto2 in a couple of years, seems to be going that way.
Did you win another $100 on Boner this year ? I saw Steve Sunday at breakfast and he isn't taking any more bets, quit while ahead, he reckons.

Hahaha...Stoner won me two cartons of Steinies and a hundy for the bet, plus a few hundy from the tab before the odds got too short!