Free the weed, dope, cannabis, hooch, Fri 4 Feb, outside Auckland District Courts

[ducatilover]

In the Netherlands pot is decriminalised, and their cannabis consumption rates are lower per capita than NZ. Why?

Or they just have better things to do than smoke pot and blob?

[puddytat]

Funny thing is Id've thought the Govt would be keen to atleast decrim it.....take my own case for example.Seeing as its that time of the year & things are a way off from picking, lately I've been having to go without. So consequently although Im still having the thoughts on topics like I usually do, I can now be fucked to actually sit down & espouse them here on KB, instead of wandering round the garden going "Wow Man"....
Life would be a lot easier for the govt. if everyone was stoned.

[DMNTD:Me]

The stuff should be legalised - that way I'd have more time to write out tickets!

Well I guess at least you'd be collecting taxes instead of spending them

[SMOKEU]

Weed does cause a lot of problems in NZ - but that's only because it's illegal. If it wasn't illegal, then gang tinnie houses wouldn't be popping up in impoverished areas, and there would be no street level weed dealers.

Exactly the same problems happened in the USA during the alcohol prohibition era - illegal distilleries started spreading like wild fire, and of course gangs got involved, and many people got killed as a consequence. At least the Americans saw "the light", they legalised alcohol, and instantly those illegal distilleries and illegal pubs started to disappear.

It's common sense. Make something illegal, and if enough people want it, then it's going to become widely available regardless of what government propaganda the National party spew out to the NZ public.

[ducatilover]

Weed does cause a lot of problems in NZ - but that's only because it's illegal. If it wasn't illegal, then gang tinnie houses wouldn't be popping up in impoverished areas, and there would be no street level weed dealers.

Then what would the gangs start manufacturing as they don't want their profit margins cut?
They're not in it to make it legal, illegal trade pays very well if done "right" and if weed was legal, their profits would be slashed hugely unless you start paying 40-50 for a spot...

[scissorhands]

Then what would the gangs start manufacturing as they don't want their profit margins cut?
They're not in it to make it legal, illegal trade pays very well if done "right" and if weed was legal, their profits would be slashed hugely unless you start paying 40-50 for a spot...

Not at all, new Harley Davidsons will be forever

CALIFORNIA: Dispensary prices have remained the same as before decriminalisation. Dispensary farms are run just like now in NZ but very professionally, profit on yield is the same. Tax is paid, new Harleys can be claimed back as expenses, as well as 'field research' to foreign lands. A mate makes surfboards, so can go to Bali every year for product research.... he only makes a few boards....

No one grows their own when you can get your quack to write you a prescription, oh yeah the medical establishment gets $100 for the medical certificate so that carrot has worked

Going legit has its perks I believe....

Win Win.

[ducatilover]

Interesting insight. I'll start growing if it becomes legal Might not buy a Hardley though

[scissorhands]

[SMOKEU]

Then what would the gangs start manufacturing as they don't want their profit margins cut?
They're not in it to make it legal, illegal trade pays very well if done "right" and if weed was legal, their profits would be slashed hugely unless you start paying 40-50 for a spot...

The gang members that want to deal with methamphetamine and other hard drugs already do so. The profits from class A drugs are significantly higher than than for weed.

[scumdog]

Exactly the same problems happened in the USA during the alcohol prohibition era - illegal distilleries started spreading like wild fire, and of course gangs got involved, and many people got killed as a consequence. At least the Americans saw "the light", they legalised alcohol, and instantly those illegal distilleries and illegal pubs started to disappear.

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A shame they hadn't made the problems caused by alcohol disappear too...

[ducatilover]

The gang members that want to deal with methamphetamine and other hard drugs already do so. The profits from class A drugs are significantly higher than than for weed.

Yes, but, I was questioning if the return from weed becomes lower, why bother to be in the business? Most pot sellers are there for the money are they not? And I cannot imagine them bending over and taking the proverbial government rod up the jacksie.

Just a thought.

[scissorhands]

The way I see it, prices wont go down, as they are the same in countries that have decriminalised

Costs will go down, as well as stress to those in the business

Volume will stay the same, and should reduce in time depending on TV ads/education to reduce consumption

Tax is now paid to government.

Government saves money from arresting, processing, sentencing and locking up peps with cannabis charges

Gang profits from cannabis may increase if they secure a supply contract to a dispensary......

Or social club........there are a few more Daktory style clubs near me now!! Supplied by?? Po Po lets slide??

They may become the norm in NZ, instead of US dispensaries or Dutch cafes. At this stage they are a social experiment.... I hope they are kind in their reports, I am technically retarded

[bogan]

So is it free yet? Cos that'd be a good way to undercut the competition too, them buggers get heaps for not much grass (that is the extent of my weed pricing knowledge btw).

[bogan]

Volume will stay the same, and should reduce in time depending on TV ads/education to reduce consumption

Volume will stay the same? Yeh right, what you smoking man! oh yeh, weed, as you were.

[scissorhands]

Its true, use spikes briefly while grannies and soccer mums try it for sleep anxiety etc

But in all countries it seems that new stoners hardly appear, and use actually goes down...

Almost an unofficial decriminalised situation in NZ now anyways, tons of peps get a warning