Free the weed, dope, cannabis, hooch, Fri 4 Feb, outside Auckland District Courts

[mashman]

Smoking - it's your choice.

Now I'm laughing even more 'cos a packet of 20 costs way more than a gallon of gas.

Not in every case it isn't. I don't choose to inhale your exhaust fumes.

You're possibly giving people cancer with your second hand bike smoke

[oneofsix]

Is smoking the only thing that causes mouth/throat cancer? Does emphasyma and heart failure only occur in those that smoke? Should women who have a history of breast cancer in the family remove their breasts just in case? I'm not excusing smoking, and whilst I will accept your russian roulette argument, I won't accept your direct consequence argument because it is not a fact that smoking is 100% responsible for ANY cancer or disease. I have no doubt that it is a contributing factor to damaging a persons health and that there is a higher probability that a person will contract a smoking attributed (not related) disease, but it isn't the only thing that damages a persons health and people who don't smoke die of exactly the same diseases as those who do smoke. Russian Roulette at best... I only started smoking to help with my gambling habit...

Would you class that as denial?

Russian Roulette with a double barrelled shotgun and a single cartridge.

[mashman]

Russian Roulette with a double barrelled shotgun and a single cartridge.

but the question is, do I feel lucky

[scumdog]

Not in every case it isn't. I don't choose to inhale your exhaust fumes.

You're possibly giving people cancer with your second hand bike smoke

a You don't live anywhere near me....


b And I guess you don't use any petrol fueled device yourself??

[mashman]

a You don't live anywhere near me....


b And I guess you don't use any petrol fueled device yourself??

a. I'm not the only person on the planet, I'm sure there are people living near you... poor fuckers.

b. hence the

[SMOKEU]

Russian Roulette with a double barrelled shotgun and a single cartridge.

This?

[ducatilover]

Russian Roulette with a double barrelled shotgun and a single cartridge.

Or with a Colt 1911A1 with a single shell?

[Edbear]

Thats why it should be eaten and in tinctures, as it was sold in pharmacy's for 100's of years... Weed is actually a anti-cancer treatment Ed, do some reading instead of quoting Mildred from church

Ed, you talk about 'research' all the time, yet quote wives tales and continue half truths and lies that suit your worldview and political/social/religious bias

At this stage cannabis looks a lot less harmful that some of the moralistic emotional blackmail that various financial interest groups bandy about, harming NZ youth with propaganda over facts!! Recirculating untruths and propaganda for your status within their pack, (like the guys they hire to cheer the speaker and turn the masses.....)

all the while harming young NZers with confounding statements that are contrary to their own real life experiences and that of the wider public



all the while the kids have to listen to lying officials, or lying anti prohibitionists..... and are caught in the middle of a money go round, and corporate battle for the recreational dollar of NZ youf

Yes, everyone including me can be a dumb fucker quoting garbage from their ethnocentric gang leaders asshole. I could quote rubbish from the cannabis culture movement handbook, just like you fire off your prohibitionist handbook rubbish, and at the end of the day we are both wrong and both harming the young people of NZ

Its depressing when you think about it. meh

Your leaders have a big stage, and many ardent and earnest followers with contacts...........bit like the destiny church eh? political clout......even on TV, in papers, doesnt make it any less garbage though, prolly makes it more harmful rubbish tho due to its prevalence and financial interests giving it legitimacy

Amen to all the fucking parrot monkeys on both sides of the fence.

Your mainstream rhetoric and the alternative rhetoric of the cannabis culture movement........ is a language of financial interests, and fuck the children. SAD

So you take it as a tincture to treat your cancer?

Notice it is the addicts who smoke it for recreation who are the angry, defensive ones who use totally irrelevant arguments to defend their using it to get high?

[DMNTD:Me]

Notice it is the addicts who smoke it for recreation who are the angry, defensive ones who use totally irrelevant arguments to defend their using it to get high?

Think you might find it is us that smoke occasionally for whatever reason that take offense of being lumped in with the useless stoners, much like those who have the occasional drink being lumped in with alcoholics.

[Edbear]

Think you might find it is us that smoke occasionally for whatever reason that take offense of being lumped in with the useless stoners, much like those who have the occasional drink being lumped in with alcoholics.

I didn't notice you getting angry and abusive and using spurious arguments against me.

What I have tried to say here, and anyone reviewing my posts without the cloud of cannabis permeating their brain will very readily see that I was trying to encourage quitting smoking for health reasons.

Some are severely lacking in reading comprehension and are so paranoid they see any mention of anything that goes against their addiction as a personal attack...

[DMNTD:Me]

I didn't notice you getting angry and abusive and using spurious arguments against me.

What I have tried to say here, and anyone reviewing my posts without the cloud of cannabis permeating their brain will very readily see that I was trying to encourage quitting smoking for health reasons.

Some are severely lacking in reading comprehension and are so paranoid they see any mention of anything that goes against their addiction as a personal attack...

Heh....I guess the keyboard hides so much.
BTW, far from paranoid or angry here but I can and do get more than a little frustrated when people with no personal experience (not referring to you in particular) state how bad cannibliss utilisation or occasional personal use is when they choose to only look at the worst possible scenario when it comes to its use.
Imagine if we thought that way about alcohol or worse still...motorcycling The amount of BS I've heard from people saying that motorcycles are the 'killers' is ridiculous..it's (most of the time) the muppits on top of them that are.

[Edbear]

Heh....I guess the keyboard hides so much.
BTW, far from paranoid or angry here but I can and do get more than a little frustrated when people with no personal experience (not referring to you in particular) state how bad cannibliss utilisation or occasional personal use is when they choose to only look at the worst possible scenario when it comes to its use.
Imagine if we thought that way about alcohol or worse still...motorcycling The amount of BS I've heard from people saying that motorcycles are the 'killers' is ridiculous..it's (most of the time) the muppits on top of them that are.

Maybe I'm a strange bloke but accepting we perceive justifiable risk differently as individuals I don't enjoy anything that reduces my mental faculties, including alcohol. As for risk it is medical fact that while there is a safe level of alcohol with even some benefits to drinking red wine for example, there is no safe level of smoking nor any possible health benefits.

I'm not a teetotaller and do enjoy a beer on a hot day but stop at one or two at the most before it starts to adversely affect me.

[DMNTD:Me]

Maybe I'm a strange bloke but accepting we perceive justifiable risk differently as individuals I don't enjoy anything that reduces my mental faculties, including alcohol. As for risk it is medical fact that while there is a safe level of alcohol with even some benefits to drinking red wine for example, there is no safe level of smoking nor any possible health benefits.

I'm not a teetotaller and do enjoy a beer on a hot day but stop at one or two at the most before it starts to adversely affect me.

No not strange, you just have your opinion which you're entitled to.
However, what can one do these days that some white coated twat hasn't "proved" is bad for you? Too much water...naha. Too much wah wah...no.

You enjoy the occasional beer, good onya. Some enjoy the occasional puff...I still don't see the difference.

[mashman]

Maybe I'm a strange bloke but accepting we perceive justifiable risk differently as individuals I don't enjoy anything that reduces my mental faculties

So cannabis reduces a persons mental faculties? Can you explain that further? I mean is that the initial 30 minutes? I find it does quite the opposite.

[DMNTD:Me]