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    How do you like the 40hr week ? ..Haven't done that in years..

    Morning and afternoon smoko,lunch time? ..nup, dont do that either, get work done, go home.

    Holidays and sick days? ...whats that? harden up and work through, its only a cold.

    Next time you have monday off on Labour Day, remember what's it's about. ...its always fucking raining.

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    Have any of you guys actually read what's going on there?
    Or are you mouthing off on what you read in the Herald and the general shit stirring against the Unions by all and sundry.
    POAL is ,/was actually a quite efficient operation. Hong Kong which has far lower wages on much greater turnover, produces 7.7% returns. Auckland is around 6% Melbourne’s return on equity was 2.6%, Wellington’s was 2.9% and Sydney’s was 6.9%.

    The wages figures quoted are bullshit - as even a cursory look at the figures would show. The unions were being extremely reasonable. The 12% return figure is so far off this planet, it's laughable! The 12% that someone assured the council could be achieved was based purely on cherry picking from specialised ports that bear no relationship to the Ports of Auckland operations. The only way they'd get even vaguely near that would be to have free labour - which is, in a way, what they want.

    The POAL chairman was previously a manager for Hutchison Port Holdings Group - a private company that is extending it's "assets" in the Asia/Pacific area. He was appointed by Rodney Hide when he was setting up the Greater Auckland City to privatise it's assets!
    What's one way of getting a cheap port - run it into the ground and then buy it cheap to get it off Auckland Cities hands.

    As usual, the Public are being played for suckers - divide and rule - use the "fucking unions" bait and switch technique. We all know that the "poor old bosses" are being given the shaft........yeah, right!

    Wake up people, as usual, you're being taken for a ride, and it seems most of you will go willingly down to the drop off at the cliff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LankyBastard View Post
    Interesting to read the infomation the Port placed in the Herald;

    Port workers paid (now this may be an average i'm not sure) $91,000pa

    Get 5 weeks annual leave.

    Get 15 days sick leave per year.

    Get paid for a 40 hour week but in reality only work 26 hours.

    All up that adds to $65 per hour.

    Not looking so working class anymore are they!! Hmm I may consider driving cranes at the port for that pay......

    If thats the true figures you have to wonder if Port pushed buttons to start a strike in order to justify lay offs in order to pay contractors half that amount for a full weeks work.Almost looks like the union got played.
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    feels to me that new lines are being drawn in the sand. First Qantas lock out staff to break an ongoing dispute and now POAL.

    Personally I don't think the future looks good for the average Joe. And for all of those on "above average" wages, please remember who set/sets the average and whether you like it or not that directly affects you too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNanna View Post
    feels to me that new lines are being drawn in the sand. First Qantas lock out staff to break an ongoing dispute and now POAL.

    Personally I don't think the future looks good for the average Joe. And for all of those on "above average" wages, please remember who set/sets the average and whether you like it or not that directly affects you too.

    Yep the higher the average wage the closer its get to my wage pushing my cost of living up while my earnings remain the same giving me a poor return on my time invested in having a more skilled qualification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Or are you mouthing off on what you read in the Herald and the general shit stirring against the Unions by all and sundry.
    Nope.

    I've had first hand experience witnessing a strike from an unbiased postion. I saw some gullible and not too intelligent people convinced into striking by the union for no real reason (apart maybe from being just before the election), which turned out worse for them in the long run.

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    Good to see leadership, direction and intelligence from len brown (not).

    The sooner that cock is out of the mayor's office the better.


    As has been said, there is something "fishy" going on, and it's not the fish. I suspect something to do with the public being given "Wynyard quater" and this has an opposite end of the waterfront connection.
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    Len is torn between sucking national's collective cock, and trying not to lose his left-wing south auckland voters.

    He's fucked.

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    the union clown shouldn't be getting paid when the strikers arnt working, see how long he can hold out, i have been self employed since 1986 but was a member of a union prior to that, the only time we saw the cunts was when the fees were due, any one old enough will remember the freezing workers going on strike before every season started and the ferry going on strike before every holiday, FUCK the unions i say

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    It'll be great harbour front when you can clean the Port away from there.
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    It'll be great harbour front when you can clean the Port away from there.
    It's a shitload of carparking spaces!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    It's a shitload of carparking spaces!
    For sure, but cover it in apartments, cafes and offices, connected to another marina and imagine how many Asian immigrants could be housed there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    For sure, but cover it in apartments, cafes and offices, connected to another marina and imagine how many Asian immigrants could be housed there.
    You make that sound like a good thing.
    P'raps it would be, the more immigrants that go to Auckland, the less that come to Wellington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    Before you run down Unions - how do you like the 40hr week ? Morning and afternoon smoko,lunch time? Holidays and sick days? Next time you have monday off on Labour Day, remember what's it's about.
    Yes, and the unions also gave us strikes that cancelled flights, cancelled ferries, cancelled deliveries, delayed operations in hospitals, featherbedding union worker packages, the whole lot. The unions are last century's solution in a world that has moved on and if they do not like their job they can do what the rest of us do - put up and shut up, or change it and move on. The independent auditors found that $91,000 was indeed their income for working half the hours of many of us who are salaried or self-employed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LankyBastard View Post
    Interesting to read the infomation the Port placed in the Herald;

    Port workers paid (now this may be an average i'm not sure) $91,000pa

    Get 5 weeks annual leave.

    Get 15 days sick leave per year.

    Get paid for a 40 hour week but in reality only work 26 hours.

    All up that adds to $65 per hour.

    Not looking so working class anymore are they!! Hmm I may consider driving cranes at the port for that pay......

    It ain't an exageration.

    I drive/ride by them twice a day every day for it seems like a couple of months. I shake my head at them and they shake their fists at me. They are obviously incapable of seeing how good they have had it and have stupidly pissed it away. They should have a look around and see how hard others (who work a damn sight harder than them) have it. They might then feel some of the shame that they should. $90K for labouring.

    Yes I know how hard-ly they work as I spent time doing some building work down there some years ago. Man they had it good. Dumb, dumb, dumb
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