Parking infringement question

[short-circuit]

Personally I would have let the wife get wet. But then I'm like that.

Dirty bastard

[Virago]

Are you a parking warden? Is that why you live on KB? No friends?

No. I'm not a sad fuck crying on the internet about a parking ticket either...

[tigertim20]

As the driver of a car (has to be done some times), I was parked for about a minute in one out of about twelve unused disabled spaces, late one night....and got nabbed

However, I remained in the vehicle (able to move if needed) while my wife drew money from an ATM

I can't find a reference anywhere that addresses the above point. Is this a defense? - the fact that the car was not left unattended (in fact the engine stayed on)

Auckland City Council.

My suggestion to you, is that you direct the Auckland city council to Kiwibiker, and provide them with your username, they will, upon reading through the majority of your posts realise that you do, in fact, have a very serious mental disability, and will withdraw the fine.

short of that, No, its not a defence at all. You might whinge about disabled parking etc etc, but the reality is that, simply being disabled does NOT entitle you to use those parks, you must be disabled, then go through a lengthy process of getting doctors letters (account for cost of doctors visit) to accompany an application for a disabled parking permit. if you are successful in getting a permit, you have to pay a fee, which is frankly incredibly high for what it is, in order to get the little yellow card that entitles you to park in those spots.

so in short, pay the fee, and next time tell you wife not to be so fuckin lazy, and walk the extra 10 metres from the non-disbaled parking spaces.

[JimO]

No it aint and fucking good job,my father who still drives at 79 yrs young has to pay for his mobility card these days ( as if it wasn't enough that because of a drunk, 14 times convicted driver he was terribly injured some years ago) and I for one have absolutely no sympathy for your situation.
Simple, really, don't park there, they are there for a reason.Surely SS you'd appreciate it if you could legally park as close as possible to your destination, when walking any distance kills your old or damaged body???

fuck those disabled cunts they get all the good parks

[Akzle]

As the driver of a car (has to be done some times), I was parked for about a minute in one out of about twelve unused disabled spaces, late one night....and got nabbed

However, I remained in the vehicle (able to move if needed) while my wife drew money from an ATM

I can't find a reference anywhere that addresses the above point. Is this a defense? - the fact that the car was not left unattended (in fact the engine stayed on)

Auckland City Council.

as far as i can tell, you didn't park there.



(legislation does not define "car", it does define "driver", see if you were actually a driver in that instance...) (land transport (driver licensing and vehicle registration) act, interpretation act.)

[kevie]

As the driver of a car (has to be done some times), I was parked for about a minute in one out of about twelve unused disabled spaces, late one night....and got nabbed

However, I remained in the vehicle (able to move if needed) while my wife drew money from an ATM

I can't find a reference anywhere that addresses the above point. Is this a defense? - the fact that the car was not left unattended (in fact the engine stayed on)

Auckland City Council.

Our pet hate ...... my wife is Disabled and as with earlier comments .. the card ISN'T cheap or free..... and when you consider we live in a town where there's NO parking meters .... we are paying for the privilege of parking in a town where people park for free.

We have encountered some that say they are disabled and park there ...... still an offense if you don't display a current Mobility card. I think the fine has recently been increased to $150 and the vehicle can be towed if parked in a Disabled park without the card.

You can try writing in and explain the circumstances.

[FJRider]

According to Auckland City By laws:

Note: As at 1 January 2009 this definition of parking was:

a.In relation to a portion of a road where parking is for the time being governed by the location of parking meters or vending machines placed under the authority of a bylaw of a local authority, the stopping or standing of a vehicle on that portion of the road for any period exceeding 5 minutes;
b.In relation to any other portion of a road, the stopping or standing of a vehicle (other than a vehicle picking up or setting down passengers in a loading zone or reserved parking area, and entitled to do so) on that portion of the road.

Could I argue then on the basis of both a. and b.?

I let a passenger out while stopped temporarily with the engine running for 1 minute 57 seconds until she returned to the car. It's not really parked is it?

Neither ... (a) is parking ... controlled by parking meters and vending machines, which your park wasn't.

And (b) was reserved parking for the disabled (only) .... with no exemptions mentioned in legislation. And thus ... you were not "entitled" to park there.

[hellokitty]

I am too scared to park in a disabled park - asking for trouble..... Karma etc...
Anyway, I have fully functioning legs, so I just park elsewhere and walk... and be grateful that I can walk.

[jellywrestler]

Dirty bastard

so do you have the eftpos receipt for evidence, if you say you were there for 1.57 minutes then then they should link up pretty well time wise shouldn't they?

[Mom]

I often wonder who sees me as an able bodied person using up a handicap parking spot but if it was needed I could quite easily vacate it and let a bonified user have it.

I used to drive a friend to her hospital appointments, she was dying (it was a slow business) and had a card to allow her to park close to where she needed to go. She used to get me to drop her off and go park somewhere else and walk back to her, rather than use up a disabled park that others more worthy might need. Many times she had to get stuffed and park up close as she was too sick to be left while I parked the car.

I am often surprised at the number of able bodied drivers that park in the handicapped parks and just couldn't care less about it.

Surprised is a mild word to use. I get seriously pissed off when I see abled bodied people using disabled carparks and not give a shit. I worked for an arsehole that did that. His Mother -in-law needed one and he had it in his car for when he used to have to take her places. He used it all the time regardless.

My Mommy had one too, I used it when I took her out for whatever reason. When she died, I had the card still. I threw it out, would have come in handy when I broke my ankle I have to say

[Berries]

(legislation does not define "car", it does define "driver", see if you were actually a driver in that instance...) (land transport (driver licensing and vehicle registration) act, interpretation act.)

Isn't a car a motor vehicle?

motor vehicle—
(a) means a vehicle drawn or propelled by mechanical power; and
(b) ya de ya de ya

And the other Rule that might be of interest to the OP -

6.4 Parking contrary to notice, traffic sign, or marking
(1) A driver or person in charge of a vehicle must not stop, stand, or park the vehicle on any part of a road contrary to the terms of any notice, traffic sign, or marking maintained on or adjacent to the road by a road controlling authority and indicating that the stopping, standing, or parking of vehicles is prohibited, limited, or restricted.

[Virago]

as far as i can tell, you didn't park there...

Which is why most by-laws refer to "park or stand".

[FJRider]

as far as i can tell, you didn't park there.



(legislation does not define "car", it does define "driver", see if you were actually a driver in that instance...) (land transport (driver licensing and vehicle registration) act, interpretation act.)

But he admitted he DID ...

As the driver of a car (has to be done some times), I was parked for about a minute in one out of about twelve unused disabled spaces

[Akzle]

Holy shit! Some good thinking going on!

So a place designated for disabled parking. Does that mean an able-body cannot stand his vehicle there?

Im terms of lta, .
..so maybe he parked his motorvehicle, not his car..or did he?

And yes. He did admit it. First mistake. Tsktsk.

[FJRider]

Holy shit! Some good thinking going on!

So a place designated for disabled parking. Does that mean an able-body cannot stand his vehicle there?

Im terms of lta, .
..so maybe he parked his motorvehicle, not his car..or did he?

And yes. He did admit it. First mistake. Tsktsk.

From an auckland council website ... funny how there's no mention of any exceptions ...



Mobility Parking (Disabled Parking)

These spaces are reserved for the use of people with a disability or by those who do not have full mobility.

To use them, a vehicle must display an approved permit which can be obtained from CCS Disability Action. Either the driver or the passenger must be the person named on the permit. Vehicles found to be using a space without a permit on display can and will be ticketed.