Helmet shock...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Wasn't Fluke an ancient pagan god?

Kind of. They make test equipment and multimeters etc

http://www.fluke.com/fluke/usen/prod...rydmm?trck=dmm

and thanking god, but not the people that designed the safety gear or the doctors that saved his sorry ass? weak.

[oneofsix]

Kind of. They make test equipment and multimeters etc

http://www.fluke.com/fluke/usen/prod...rydmm?trck=dmm

and thanking god, but not the people that designed the safety gear or the doctors that saved his sorry ass? weak.

I was just having fun.
Reading more of the story perhaps he should reassess in regards to a gods involvement. Safety gear saved his life but some mystery force made him wipe out in the first place and sent him skidding towards a truck on the wrong side of yellow lines. Now if you go back to pagan type gods where the same god could be both good and bad, unlike the Judaic model of god and devil, then perhaps it is not thanks he should be offering

I guess in the Christian model it was the devil or demon that made him wipe out and his angel or God that meant the gear worked this time, the fluke crasher referred to

Glad he lived to try and workout what went wrong and to tell us how good his helmet was.

[Grantman_]

Hope you don't mind me asking but where did it happen? Mangamukas?

Nowhere close, but yes it was in Northland.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I was just having fun.
Reading more of the story perhaps he should reassess in regards to a gods involvement. Safety gear saved his life but some mystery force made him wipe out in the first place and sent him skidding towards a truck on the wrong side of yellow lines. Now if you go back to pagan type gods where the same god could be both good and bad, unlike the Judaic model of god and devil, then perhaps it is not thanks he should be offering

I guess in the Christian model it was the devil or demon that made him wipe out and his angel or God that meant the gear worked this time, the fluke crasher referred to

Glad he lived to try and workout what went wrong and to tell us how good his helmet was.

there was no supernatural involvement. Mr King of the Mangamukas fucked up, and got lucky.

Let's say that the consensus is that our species, being the higher primates, Homo Sapiens, has been on the planet for at least 100,000 years, maybe more. Francis Collins says maybe 100,000. Richard Dawkins thinks maybe a quarter-of-a-million. I'll take 100,000. In order to be a Christian, you have to believe that for 98,000 years, our species suffered and died, most of its children dying in childbirth, most other people having a life expectancy of about 25 years, dying of their teeth. Famine, struggle, bitterness, war, suffering, misery, all of that for 98,000 years. Heaven watches this with complete indifference. And then 2000 years ago, thinks "That's enough of that. It's time to intervene," and the best way to do this would be by condemning someone to a human sacrifice somewhere in the less literate parts of the Middle East. Don't lets appeal to the Chinese, for example, where people can read and study evidence and have a civilization. Let's go to the desert and have another revelation there. This is nonsense. It can't be believed by a thinking person.

[oneofsix]

there was no supernatural involvement. Mr King of the Mangamukas fucked up, and got lucky.

Luck is a supernatural force

[HenryDorsetCase]

Luck is a supernatural force

nonsense

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[oneofsix]

nonsense

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then prove it. If it is supernatural then like god it is unprovable and faith based. To say it is not supernatural then you must be able to offer empirical proof of lucks existence.

Actually this is becoming dangerous, we could get moved to the religious box

[skippa1]

wiki says........

Luck or fortunity is good fortune which occurs beyond one's control, without regard to one's will, intention, or desired result. There are at least two senses people usually mean when they use the term, the prescriptive sense and the descriptive sense. In the prescriptive sense, luck is the supernatural and deterministic concept that there are forces (e.g. gods or spirits) which prescribe that certain events occur very much the way the laws of physics will prescribe that certain events occur. It is the prescriptive sense that people mean when they state that they "do not believe in luck". In the descriptive sense, luck is merely a name we give to events after they occur which we find to be fortuitous and perhaps improbable.

[willytheekid]

Im currently using an LS2

I actually like it, the inner flip down sunnies are great and the build quality is actually very good...bit noisey, but for the price its one of the best helmets Ive tried.

Its good to see Grantman back online and sharing his "experiance" with us all...came way too close to losing him, all due to the pursuit of "getting the knee down".
...its a great lesson for many riders & KB members

Ride safe everyone and ATGATT

[george formby]

Nowhere close, but yes it was in Northland.

That narrows it down to 3 roads then.

[Paul in NZ]

there was no supernatural involvement. Mr King of the Mangamukas fucked up, and got lucky.

I went into a desert and had several revelations so to be fair its probably a decent place to go if you are looking for one. Mind you - mine were a bit more mundane, like, fuck its a long way to Taupo I hope the gas station at Turangi is open. The only other desert I went to produced a dirty old hermit exposing himself at me - I mean it was impressive and all but I don't think I'd start a religion over it..

[BigAl]

Is the label the most expensive thing about some helmets?

In many cases yes, check out this Brit site for helmet safety ratings http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

Some cheaper helmets have as good ratings or better than Arais, Agvs etc

[Grantman_]

In many cases yes, check out this Brit site for helmet safety ratings http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

Some cheaper helmets have as good ratings or better than Arais, Agvs etc

Interesting. My LS2 single mono 351 (LS2 Mono) scored better than 6 of the 8 Arai helmets, equalled 1, and beaten by the remaining Arai.

[Grantman_]

Dainese produce a 1 star helmet http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsrati...nese-airstream

[flyingcrocodile46]

Glad to see you were afforded an opportunity to learn the most important lesson of your life. I dare say it has caused much reflection on life on many levels. Put it to good use

This is my lid. A flip face 90 pounds (about $400 here ) Sharp score the flip face helmets both by stars and by recording the incidence of failure of the flip to stay locked in place. The Caberg Rhino/Trip scored 5 Stars and the flip face remained locked in 90% of impact tests. The only other 5 star flip face (BMW $y$tem 5) stayed locked 100%, while the typical score is something like the 4 star Shark Evoline which only stayed locked for 75% of impact tests.

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/caberg-trip

Interestingly Schuberth make the BMW helmet yet their own C2 scored 4 stars and the C3 got 3 stars??