American gun mania

[Akzle]

Aren't paintball guns your thing Akzle?


Tell me, when you're sitting cross legged on the floor in a pile of your own faeces, masturbating whilst reading guns and ammo, does it ever occur to you that you're just plain crazy?

uhh. i do like paintball guns, but me last one broke some years ago and i never put the $$ into fixing it.
am looking at this and this, though.

i don't sit cross legged, it's bad for my ankles and knees,
i'm actually housetrained and shit on your lawn rather than inside,
i masturbate several times a week, usually to porn or mental fantasies about lithe asian asian women who enjoy anal sex,
guns and ammo is an excellent publication and you shouldn't slander them by associating me with them,
and as far as being just plain crazy, i'd say that's you're hat not ivan jumbawumba.
tukke tukke KAKAW!

your cloud is a lot shittier and lackwitted without it's thunder eh?

[Hoon]

the odds would swing wildly in my favour in this situation, were i packing.

Highly unlikely.
Unless you've been trained to react in those kind of situations your brain will get bypassed and you're body will go straight into flight mode. Even if by some miracle you were able to compose yourself and in the confusion of battle make a correct appreciation of the situation, form a course of action, grow enough balls to take a peak with automatic gunfire coming down on you and bring your pistol into the aim, you'd probably be shaking so bad that'd you'd be ineffective at anything further than 5 metres away anyway so any talk of head shots is pure fantasy.

To overcome this takes training and lots of it - you don't get it from playing paintball and reading gun magazines. Only a clueless couch commando would rate their chances with a pistol against a determined well prepared automatic rifle equipped enemy wearing body armour.

[Daffyd]

Dogs and cats don't have races.

Yes they do! My dogs used to race along the beach all the time.

[Akzle]

Highly unlikely.
To overcome this takes training and lots of it - you don't get it from playing paintball and reading gun magazines. Only a clueless couch commando would rate their chances with a pistol against a determined well prepared automatic rifle equipped enemy wearing body armour.

that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. i disagree.
the number of times people with the means have stepped up to the plate probably outweighs the other.
there was an incident (somewhere in yankland), the state did not allow concealed or open carry. fortunately an off duty cop was packing his 38. no mention of if the cop had been under fire before. dick tried to hold up a shopping mall and had a (non-fatal) dose of lead administered.
=situation de-escalates.

what better place to carry out that shit than where you KNOW that noone will legally be able to defend theyselves?

the "gun magazines" available in NZ aren't the kind that that guy woulda been into. here we have publications that showcase our beautiful country and show what a guy with nous, balls and a weapon can do against weary prey animals.
not wannabe "tactical" "swat secrets and knuckle dusters" types

i maintain that my chances would be good, given the mental position that guy would have been in. (assured upper hand, and distracted)

i agree that putting bullets into meat, particularly human meat, is a far cry from punching paper, but as teh samurai of old, repetition is key. the movements become instinctual, "no mind", as most people who change gears in a manual, or breathe - you know the objective, but you go through the motions without thinking.

[davereid]

Sorry I don't see where it says 'per head of population' on the page you linked. Happy to be proved wrong.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...er-100-000-pop is the per 100,000 stats, USA is 8th.


http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...100-000-people USA is #63

[Akzle]

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...er-100-000-pop is the per 100,000 stats, USA is 8th.


http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...100-000-people USA is #63

what a poorly effort on NZ's part. even Abjizerstan beats us. terrible.
but what's the per-capita firearms OWNERSHIP rates.?

i think NZ ranks highly with about 4-7 guns per license holder, obviously the gang's don't submit their armouries for auditing, but you could easily add 1/3rd again.

[Oscar]

what a poorly effort on NZ's part. even Abjizerstan beats us. terrible.
but what's the per-capita firearms OWNERSHIP rates.?

i think NZ ranks highly with about 4-7 guns per license holder, obviously the gang's don't submit their armouries for auditing, but you could easily add 1/3rd again.

If you start counting illegally held guns in NZ, you have to do it overseas as well.
How efficient do you suppose the gun licensing authorities in Azerbaijan are?

[HenryDorsetCase]

If you start counting illegally held guns in NZ, you have to do it overseas as well.
How efficient do you suppose the gun licensing authorities in Azerbaijan are?

AK47 $40USD in the market or two goats.

[puddytat]

For those wanting to indulge in Fantasy Land well its in Hastings for a start, but you can get most of the acessories here....
www.kiwidisposals.co.nz.

[SMOKEU]

AK47 $40USD in the market or two goats.

Count me in!

[Flip]

Do you want the AK or the Goats you sick fuck?

[Akzle]

If you start counting illegally held guns in NZ, you have to do it overseas as well.
How efficient do you suppose the gun licensing authorities in Azerbaijan are?

..."temporary importation into or export from Azerbaijan of items such as firearms, religious materials, antiquities (including carpets), medications, and caviar, and any amount of currency over USD 1,000. Visitors who purchase carpets will generally require an export permit issued by the State Museum of Azerbaijan Carpet and Applied Art; many carpet-selling shops will obtain that permit for the buyer for a fee"

+http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/azerbaijan
i'm quite glad NZ doesn't have a State Museum of NZ Carpet and Applied Art. it would make smugglin rug and applying my art to em a lot harder.

[Timber020]

that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. i disagree.
the number of times people with the means have stepped up to the plate probably outweighs the other.
there was an incident (somewhere in yankland), the state did not allow concealed or open carry. fortunately an off duty cop was packing his 38. no mention of if the cop had been under fire before. dick tried to hold up a shopping mall and had a (non-fatal) dose of lead administered.
=situation de-escalates.

what better place to carry out that shit than where you KNOW that noone will legally be able to defend theyselves?

the "gun magazines" available in NZ aren't the kind that that guy woulda been into. here we have publications that showcase our beautiful country and show what a guy with nous, balls and a weapon can do against weary prey animals.
not wannabe "tactical" "swat secrets and knuckle dusters" types

i maintain that my chances would be good, given the mental position that guy would have been in. (assured upper hand, and distracted)

i agree that putting bullets into meat, particularly human meat, is a far cry from punching paper, but as teh samurai of old, repetition is key. the movements become instinctual, "no mind", as most people who change gears in a manual, or breathe - you know the objective, but you go through the motions without thinking.

Never underestimate how badly people react to moments of great fear, discomfort and general panic. Most peoples choice of a ccw is a sub compact or compact or snub revolver running lighter rounds and its unlikely that have more than a dozen available rounds.

These type of pistols are a compromise, made light and short for easy carry and draw, but this also limits there accuracy and round capacity. They take alot of training and discipline to shoot with any accuracy when your calm facing paper. Make it to dark to see there sights, peopel running and screaming, get the blood pumping, and a bit of tear gas and your have someone who has lost 95% of there shooting ability and a good 60% of clear judgement

If you put 10 ccw well intended average citizens in that theatre here how it would probably work out.

7 would try to run out with the rest of them, possibly two of these once outside would consider going back in to save face, but wont. They will never admit to being armed that night.

One would freeze up and roll into the tightest ball he can

One would shield his wife or partner, and might even draw his gun but wouldnt use it.

And the last one would draw his weapon, but not be able to take a shot due to it not being an ideal shooting solution for him. And if he did shoot, the chance of him hitting the bad guy is slim to none.

Everyone thinks that a gun in there hands would be a quick end to these kind of situations, but the fact is, most react badly if they react at all. Put a person a few rows back with a keltec 380 in that place, its going to be just a waste of bullets.
People are morons, scared heavily armed people are highly dangerous morons. For all the CCW carriers and armed off duty cops, they create much more accidents than they ever come close to stopping



Did you hear about the cop that got shot by his 3 year old because he left his loaded glock under the carseat and his kid wasnt strapped in. They guys sueing glock over it!

[oneofsix]

Never underestimate how badly people react to moments of great fear, discomfort and general panic. Most peoples choice of a ccw is a sub compact or compact or snub revolver running lighter rounds and its unlikely that have more than a dozen available rounds.

These type of pistols are a compromise, made light and short for easy carry and draw, but this also limits there accuracy and round capacity. They take alot of training and discipline to shoot with any accuracy when your calm facing paper. Make it to dark to see there sights, peopel running and screaming, get the blood pumping, and a bit of tear gas and your have someone who has lost 95% of there shooting ability and a good 60% of clear judgement

If you put 10 ccw well intended average citizens in that theatre here how it would probably work out.

7 would try to run out with the rest of them, possibly two of these once outside would consider going back in to save face, but wont. They will never admit to being armed that night.

One would freeze up and roll into the tightest ball he can

One would shield his wife or partner, and might even draw his gun but wouldnt use it.

And the last one would draw his weapon, but not be able to take a shot due to it not being an ideal shooting solution for him. And if he did shoot, the chance of him hitting the bad guy is slim to none.

Everyone thinks that a gun in there hands would be a quick end to these kind of situations, but the fact is, most react badly if they react at all. Put a person a few rows back with a keltec 380 in that place, its going to be just a waste of bullets.
People are morons, scared heavily armed people are highly dangerous morons. For all the CCW carriers and armed off duty cops, they create much more accidents than they ever come close to stopping



Did you hear about the cop that got shot by his 3 year old because he left his loaded glock under the carseat and his kid wasnt strapped in. They guys sueing glock over it!

That basically fits the stats that came to light post WWII, only about 2% of the infantry deliberately aimed at the enemy, of those 1% were physco's that loved the killing and 1% were protecting their mates. Now which 1% to put Akzle in??
When they followed the stats back as best they could they found it was true of most shooting wars, like the USA civil war were one rifle contained a barrel full of cartridges because the guy had been going through the motions of loading and aiming and reloading without ever firing, just so he looked the part but didn't have to kill anyone.

[scumdog]

This thread is full of key-board warriors that 'know' what they would do when a gunman runs amock...