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Not sure now...too much wine mehaps?Originally Posted by cameron.new
I'm very interested to ride the 300 however. I didn't think the 250 was worth buying over an old one (including the tacky looks...) but the added pep might make it an amusing little bike.
If it makes me smile after my little toys, it's good
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Have a read http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/100,000_miles_on_an_EX250
86,000 miles and only a worn camchain.
Statements like yours just seem silly to me. A bit like people not buying specific brands because their "mate had one that kept breaking" yet everyone else has no troubles at all.
If the 300 can't do 100K with only normal servicing then Kawasaki are somehow going backwards in reliability which seems a little unlikely. They sure as hell wouldn't make the same bike for 20 years if there was any issue with reliability!
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Why would I want to ride a bike that has the capacity of one of my cylinders on my bike?How can you say a hornet will be more reliable, faster, better handling when you haven't even ridden the ninja?
Ive ridden Hornets and they just go and go.
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I've seen many drop valves, spit rods and bend valves after throwing tensioner wobblies.
I was saying, I have yet to see one do 100k, and well, now I have.
You might notice I'm forever recommending the GPX/ZZR because they will usually manage 80,000km with typical NZ riders on 'em. But I recommend the Hornet over one as they are nicer and in 90% of cases, more reliable.
I love my Kawasaki...
If the 300 manages those kms, good. It's still not great value just like the EX250, simply because it's new and offers nothing that older bikes don't (exception of the not so nice FI system)
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Assuming that the Hornet 250 has a Te-tuned CBR250RR engine, that means that they would have cam gears right? That would make them go and go. I agree that the Hornet 250 would be a damn reliable bike.
Haha and to think I was worried about all the shit I was gonna get buying a new Hyosung
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Ive got a Hyosung 650 race bike, your point is?Assuming that the Hornet 250 has a Te-tuned CBR250RR engine, that means that they would have cam gears right? That would make them go and go. I agree that the Hornet 250 would be a damn reliable bike.
Haha and to think I was worried about all the shit I was gonna get buying a new Hyosung
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Yup, thicker headgasket, less agressive cams, different carbs, different ignition advance curves and different exhaust. 40hp instead of 45
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One of the 250 Hornets BIG advantages is that it's in a frame that way out performs the engine's capabilities. So it has probably got some of the best overall handling abilities in the 250 class. I'd agree most Honda's are built extremely well, their biggest 'fault' over the years has been a lack of user (maintenance) friendliness.
The other side of this coin is, regardless of 'how good' these old hornets are, thy are 'mostly' just that OLD and the K's ARE piling on.
There HAS to come a point where these machines are no longer viable as a really reliable and serious option... With Lam's regardless of 'rose tinted' specs... and gawd help us, most of us old buggers wear them!! The options now seriously outweigh the Hornets finite abilities.. for Hornet pricing I can buy a GS500, This is going to be the 'decider' for the old 250's... the exorbitant prices they have commanded will now start to drop to realistic levels..... The Hornet and similar will soon become the 'second' cheap hack bike options for Winter riding, or 'disposable' learner bikes.
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Bear in mind, that the oldest Hornets you can find are 96 or 97. They were made all the way until 06 or 08. You can still find damn near new ones around for GS500 money. There are also quite a few KBers that have had their 250 hornets do well over 100k kms. Shit, Gijoes was stolen when it had over 110,000 KMs on it. I'd imagine as more of the newer hornets migrate here from Japan, they'll still be a choice learner bike for quite awhile. They certainly have more then enough oomph to get you through the 2 years on your Ls n Rs.
The other IL4 250s though, I'd agree with you. I wouldn't touch a zxr/fzr/bandit250 with a 10 foot pole. Don't know if I'd buy a CBR250 either, simply because the likelyhood it's been beaten to death is high. It took me some convincing that the Hornets would be alright as well.
Anyway, too much choice out there for a 10,000$ learner bikeNeed Suzuki to put GS500s back into production for a reasonable Sum.
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You are more than welcome to take out my ninja 300 if I end up getting it. Bit of a shame about our local dealer, did they tell you they are in next week? They didn't think to inform me as I only as I have a grand deposit on one.
You can ride it next time mine next time you are in Hamilton (if I end up getting it). In the mean time I can ask Carver to do a write up on it.
Your so nice to our new members Mr nzspokes, clearly he was referring to the shit people normally give people on 250 Hyosungs.
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
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I look forward to it
I wrote out a response to Graywolf, but my webternets fucked out, but, I agree with him.
The HOrnets aren't yet that long in the tooth though as mentioned just below, but the GS is great value and everyone seems to forget the ZZR400N (can be had fairly late model and is an actual proper size bike with stable handling and nice brakes)
And the GPZ500/EX5 twins, also great bikes
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The demo stock is in from the 12th of December for one week I was told.
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How does it compare to the SV? Sorry about the off-topic but I've been wondering about this for a long time.
I like the 300 and if I can ever persuade my surgeon and Mrs. I'd love to try one out. I did think about trying one secretly but my history would suggest it would all turn to custard and I'd be in real trouble...
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
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Jam and tarts....
It weighs more and also has budget suspension?
Good commuter and great value though
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Dont know much about SVs but the Hyobag is very easy to Mod and tune. Suspension for the front seems to be a simple shim stack deal, rear shock is a replace it thing. Our one was gutless but have found it had a cracked inlet manifold and ripped carb diaphragm on the same cyl. So is was running as a 325..... Thats been sorted and it seems to rev stacks better. Im halfway through gutting the muffler. Hope to have it back going over xmas. Will be a laugh. Is really just for track days.
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