Kronic banned

[Bassmatt]

An that my friend is exactly why I'm so utterly pissed off about failing a test 8 days after the fact an then being stood down for two weeks while being treated like I was stoned at the time of the test.

Getting stood down or even sacked for driving while actually stoned I can understand,but these cunts are playing social engineers even though they can't measure any level of impairment with their poxy fucking test.

Did I say I'm pissed off ?fuck it.

Yep those tests are a load of crap. I'm surprised they haven't been tested in a court yet.

[Road kill]

I reckon you would score high. They are the same tests doctors use. Most doctors get less than 1 days training on ASD's or autism spectrum disorders..... I have had maybe 1000hrs training/reading/discussion/meeting other aspergians and ADHDers....

short pointy finger?

One of my grandsons has resently been diagnosed as autistic.

The kid is 6 years old an can complete a jigsaw puzzle in an hour or so that would take an adult days.

Builds Mecanno cars,boats,helicopters that just blows me away,,but again every nut and screw has to be the same way up or have the slot in the top perfectly alined with the next one.

The only thing he does that really makes you think "something odd going on here" is that he doesn't talk much.

No worries though "next time they come over from Oz for a vist I'm going to get him to reassemble the gearbox on my bike

[SMOKEU]

I reckon you would score high. They are the same tests doctors use. Most doctors get less than 1 days training on ASD's or autism spectrum disorders..... I have had maybe 1000hrs training/reading/discussion/meeting other aspergians and ADHDers....

short pointy finger?

Are you saying that you suffer from such a medial condition?

An that my friend is exactly why I'm so utterly pissed off about failing a test 8 days after the fact an then being stood down for two weeks while being treated like I was stoned at the time of the test.

Getting stood down or even sacked for driving while actually stoned I can understand,but these cunts are playing social engineers even though they can't measure any level of impairment with their poxy fucking test.

Did I say I'm pissed off ?fuck it.

Tell those cunts to fuck off. No way am I letting some muppet test me for shit that has absolutely nothing to do with work.

[Shadows]

What the fuck are you talkin' about ???

Sorry. I can't remember.

*Quotes two longish posts, and makes a disparaging comment about short term memory with 10 words.

I also forgot to mention unwelcome effects on the sense of humour gland as well, it would seem.

[scissorhands]

Are you saying that you suffer from such a medial condition?

If that is like a medical condition without the c, then probably yes. I dont suffer all the time. I may even suffer less than someone without the medial condition.

jesu7s wept for me suffering, cause he was on the spectrum

[puddytat]

I'm not going to believe unsubstantiated claims on the subject in question which have been fabricated by persons with no formal medical training.

Like yourself?
The reason it only lasts that long for you, is that your a frequent user?
Getting high, & pain relief are two different things au.


Had another thought today.....if the Govt. is going to make these "legal'' highs properly legal with all the testing & shit at a huge cost to the maker, who's going to have that kind of money to do it?
It'll be pharmaceutical companies ,who usually do their own testing.
The same companies who've lobbied tha Govt for years to stop smaller producers from selling natural medicines that have been used forever. Ah the sticky smelly fingers of international law & trade agreements.

[SMOKEU]

The reason it only lasts that long for you, is that your a frequent user?

Not really, just a bit of fun on the weekends.

[Spyke]

You like the idea of getting a prescription to have a morning coffee, BBQ beer, or even a pain relieving paracetamol/aspirin

No I don't like the idea of getting a prescription for those things. but they have been tested to be safe at correct doses. have three beers and your not going to be out of your mind. Have three cones of k2 and say the same thing. party pills are kind of the same, except the side effects are different like stomach cramps, not being able to take a leak, limp dick and throwing up to name a few.

I'm not condoning testing on animals because i can say there's been enough human cases of using legal weeds/using to much and the consequences prove it isn't really safe enough for people to use regularly. why subject an animal to extreme amounts until it dies when it's already on the shelves and been used by heaps of people.

One of my mates used it a few times and now she has a pacemaker. It doesn't only effect the mind.

[Usarka]

No I don't like the idea of getting a prescription for those things. but they have been tested to be safe at correct doses. have three beers and your not going to be out of your mind.

Pharmaceutical grade amphetamines are safe at correct doses too. A dose of these is much "cleaner" than a coffee buzz. So these should be legal too?

[scissorhands]

One of my mates used it a few times and now she has a pacemaker. It doesn't only effect the mind.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10850040

Synthetic cannabis ingredient banned
1:04 PM Monday Nov 26, 2012
Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne has ordered a temporary ban on a synthetic cannabis ingredient, he announced today.
The temporary class drug notice was issued following the identification of a substance known as EAM-2201in two K2 products seized by police.
Legal high K2 has been causing concern in the lower South Island, said Mr Dunne.

Thing is EAM-2201 has been off the shelf for a while anyway. The latest batch of products that are causing harm are still available. This latest banning is ineffective, as current harmful blends are still available. Future blends will possibly be even more harmful.

Its crazy that illegal substances from plants are considerably safer

[Spyke]

Pharmaceutical grade amphetamines are safe at correct doses too. A dose of these is much "cleaner" than a coffee buzz. So these should be legal too?

Well if you were prescribed it by a doctor and you needed it then yeah why not. I'd say it would be pretty hard to be prescribed it (wheres a junkie doctor) though I'm not sure what use it would be good for, maybe for weight loss lol.

Better to get medical grade stuff then the stuff cut with all those other nasty chemicals. I'd be way more happy to do pharmaceutical amphetamines (counting mdma) than crack, speed and fake ecstasy on the streets now. Cause who really wants a dose of (street) crack, ketamine, methadrone, reseach chemicals, chalk etc. I wouldn't know how to compare it to k2 (trippy, out of head feeling, anxious) in terms of the high but its probably better. not sure about long term use though. care to enlighten me on the buzz and side effects of medical grade amphets.

Make weed legal and kill the drug black market pretty quickly. Make it less of a gateway drug, because you don't have to goto the mob/druggies that have the higher up stuff they are trying to push.

Only problem I see with that is the a class users won't be able to fund their habbit with weed. so they will either steal or get a job. What will they choose?

PS been off all illegal drugs (and all party pills and kronic type subs) a year now. Still smoke ciggies like a train and drinking bugger all alcohol because liver levels are above recommended levels (strangely they aren't the levels that show up when drinking to much which i was a couple of months ago).

I had a hard lesson in doing to much and the body said no, so I'm looking at a life of being straight cut. Oh well more time to ride motorbikes with a way clearer head and more money to do it. (I don't drink or do drugs when riding)

[Madness]

It's official, Peter Dunne is an Egg.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ty-pills-tests

Dunne, who has headed the Government's crackdown on party pills, initially said animal testing was "unavoidable to prove that products are safe for human beings" and "it is an unpleasant but necessary reality".

But after the story was published, Dunne ruled out the use of LD50 and said no decision to use other testing methods involving animals would be made without a thorough consultation period.

I bet he used to put pins through flies & pull their wings off as a kid.

[mashman]

It's official, Peter Dunne is an Egg.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ty-pills-tests



I bet he used to put pins through flies & pull their wings off as a kid.

There aren't many in the funny shaped building that aren't fuckwits. If they're even remotely dangerous, wouldn't you think that they'd just ban them and move on. T'would seem that there probably been a bit of lobbying going in from somewhere. I can hear it now. "It's not fair, our product is safe, what you're doing is illegal, I'm going to tell my dad on you unless you let me prove it by killing dogs.". Fickle wankers.

[Banditbandit]

I reckon you would score high. They are the same tests doctors use. Most doctors get less than 1 days training on ASD's or autism spectrum disorders..... I have had maybe 1000hrs training/reading/discussion/meeting other aspergians and ADHDers....

short pointy finger?

Naaa ... pass ... My wife (who's speciality is Autistic Spectrum Disorders) says I'm definitely Aspergers .. I think fuck it ... who cares .. would it make any difference if I was tested and knew for sure? No !!! Well then .. why bother with the testing .. (And yeah, I realise that reaction can be a typical autistic spectrum person's reaction ...)

One of my grandsons has resently been diagnosed as autistic.

The kid is 6 years old an can complete a jigsaw puzzle in an hour or so that would take an adult days.

Builds Mecanno cars,boats,helicopters that just blows me away,,but again every nut and screw has to be the same way up or have the slot in the top perfectly alined with the next one.

The only thing he does that really makes you think "something odd going on here" is that he doesn't talk much.

No worries though "next time they come over from Oz for a vist I'm going to get him to reassemble the gearbox on my bike

One of my nephew's is on the spectrum for sure ... obvious if you meet him ... My sister had him tested .. but refused to share the results with anybody ... because we've all seen what happened to another nephew who was diagnosed Asergers/ADHD early in life - and was the medicated and coddled by my other sister .. He would have been better off not knowing ...

[Banditbandit]

Like yourself?
The reason it only lasts that long for you, is that your a frequent user?

No - other way around - frequent users develop immunity - so the length of time a high lasts will be shorter ... highs last longer for new users and infrequent users ...