Brainless Broads Babbling Bullshit!

[Road kill]

Got me there, I'll admit complete ignorance on the risk involved and incident rate in riding horses.

That aside, I like hi-vis gear, ever done an emergency drill on a large site where you have had to find a person not wearing a hi-vis?

Not as high as for Motorcycles.

Carefull what you wish for.

[kiwi cowboy]

Sorta speaks for itself really ...

Next silly question .. ???

Must be an idiot then cos you diddnt answer the question

[FJRider]

Must be an idiot then cos you diddnt answer the question

If idiots are dieing ... and you are alive ...


But who am I to argue with you ...

[kiwi cowboy]

Prevention is 1/100th the cost of treatment.

That aside, Farmers are fucking morons and operate out of the view of the rest of NZ, Instead of allowing them to continue killing themselves and their children at a cost to the taxpayers (well, death is cheap, they can continue to kill themselves, Go easy on the kids though fuckballs) lets just tell them to get fucked, Ban farm quads, Make the useless fuckwits ride horses. Then something in the equation will actually have a brain.

What the fuck are you smokin dipshit?.

of the last three accidents one was a sixteen year old rode of a cliff and one was a load of tossers pissed riding around dunes - now how does that relate to farmers

If the stats were put out on how many accidents were farmers as apposed to recreational users i think you be supprised.

[kiwi cowboy]

If idiots are dieing ... and you are alive ...


But who am I to argue with you ...

argue away please.
must spread rep before giving to fj.

[Headbanger]

now how does that relate to farmers?

Recreational use falls outside the jurisdiction of workplace health and safety, Unless its done at a place of work ie: a farm.

Tell me, How many farmers have had formal training in the use of atv's?

close to none?

Hence the level of competence is low, while the level of ignorance is off the scale.

For the record, Training should consist of more then, here's the throttle, heres the brake, don't fuck it up, and if you do its a box of beer.

Agricultural accidents are one of the reasons NZ health and Safety stats are so poor.

[FJRider]

If the stats were put out on how many accidents were farmers as apposed to recreational users i think you be suprised.

We just won't talk about the moron bikers ... that just go out for the occasional fang on the weekends and crash.

But we'll talk about the moron farmers that use them seven days a week. For years on end ... with no issues. One makes a mistake and is killed.

Then the call comes for Quads to be banned.

If we compare the stats of those numbers of persons on quads getting killed ... to those killed on the two wheeled bikes (on or off the road) we will see which type of bikes should be banned.

[kiwi cowboy]

Recreational use falls outside the jurisdiction of workplace health and safety, Unless its done at a place of work ie: a farm.

Tell me, How many farmers have had formal training in the use of atv's?

close to none?

Hence the level of competence is low, while the level of ignorance is off the scale.

For the record, Training should consist of more then, here's the throttle, heres the brake, don't fuck it up, and if you do its a box of beer.

You talk about competence?.
I could give you an example of an accident (not motorcycle related)at a work place(not farming)and the day before it was taken to court osh or HEALTH AND SAFTEY as you put it changed this guys lawer from one that new the relavent industry code to one that new absolutly nothing COMPETENT buggers they are A?.

You say recreational use falls outside workplace but has anyone done a study on how many quads on farm and hours opperated compared to number recreational and hours used and accidents from each code?.

I have been put through a training course and i can say after 20 years riding i diddnt learn a thing really so call me an ignorant cunt if you like i couldnt give a fuck.

All the training in the world is not going to avert that possible moment of inattention that causes a possible accident.

Motorcar drivers get tested before being allowed to drive on road but theres alot of people killed and injured on road so lets ban them.

So lets ban motor cycles and cars and truck and anything else that has a possibility of hurting us and all ride horses- i got some to sell with a brain wooooo hoooo the price of them is gonna skyrocket im gonna be rich.

[kiwi cowboy]

We just won't talk about the moron bikers ... that just go out for the occasional fang on the weekends and crash.

But we'll talk about the moron farmers that use them seven days a week. For years on end ... with no issues. One makes a mistake and is killed.

Then the call comes for Quads to be banned.

If we compare the stats of those numbers of persons on quads getting killed ... to those killed on the two wheeled bikes (on or off the road) we will see which type of bikes should be banned.

Thank you trev my point exactly.
Type of use and hours opperated against accident rate.
Bet it would be rec use over farm anyday.

[scumdog]

What the fuck are you smokin dipshit?.

of the last three accidents one was a sixteen year old rode of a cliff and one was a load of tossers pissed riding around dunes - now how does that relate to farmers

If the stats were put out on how many accidents were farmers as apposed to recreational users i think you be supprised.

Hmm, read in the paper today that of the seven quad deaths two were non-farming related.

Said by Fed Farm health and safety spokeswoman...in todays ODT from memory.

[BigAl]

If we compare the stats of those numbers of persons on quads getting killed ... to those killed on the two wheeled bikes (on or off the road) we will see which type of bikes should be banned.

I dont know, 850 quad bike accidents with 5 fatalities each year bro.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10857843

[bogan]

Recreational use falls outside the jurisdiction of workplace health and safety, Unless its done at a place of work ie: a farm.

Tell me, How many farmers have had formal training in the use of atv's?

close to none?

Hence the level of competence is low, while the level of ignorance is off the scale.

For the record, Training should consist of more then, here's the throttle, heres the brake, don't fuck it up, and if you do its a box of beer.

Agricultural accidents are one of the reasons NZ health and Safety stats are so poor.

Formal training, fucksake man, they're quad bikes, not rocket ships. Falls under common sense, and maybe mechanical sympathy, but rocket science it isn't. You must be taking the piss?

Also, who told you NZ health and safety stats are so poor? The same people whose job it is to 'fix' them perhaps?

[kiwi cowboy]

Hmm, read in the paper today that of the seven quad deaths two were non-farming related.

Said by Fed Farm health and safety spokeswoman...in todays ODT from memory.

Ok but define farming related?.

I refer to drink drive campain a few years ago saying haw many people killed on country roads and i found out one of the roads that was included in that term as country was state highway 1 from temuka through to winchester and on to geraldine.

Were the deaths on a farm where someone was having a race around on a recreational quad or a farm quad but useing it recreationaly but put down as a farm accident?.

Stastics can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say sometimes.

[FJRider]

I dont know, 850 quad bike accidents with 5 fatalities each year bro.

As opposed to how many road bike deaths each year. And how many road bike accidents occur each year.

Compare those figures ... with the numbers of quads in use, in comparison with the number of road bikes in use.

More kids are killed by their parents than those killed in farm bike accidents.

More training/licensing for parents needed maybe ...

[scumdog]

Ok but define farming related?.

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I can't - but then it wasn't me quoted in the ODT.