Should we give 500 Production Racing a try?

[Mental Trousers]

BINGO......You should be roadrace commissioner

Lucky I deleted what I was going to say otherwise you might have suggested I take the job. Fuck that!!

[budda]

Lucky I deleted what I was going to say otherwise you might have suggested I take the job. Fuck that!!

Make that VEEEEERRRRRRRY lucky !!!!!!! Pass the NEXT cup of cold sick, please Vicar

[SWERVE]

All good points... But the last one I will say it is another way to skin the 450 MX'er Cat....
And cheaper on maintenance too....

BUT... the 450mxer route would have possibly 7/8+ different makes on the cards. The 500 would be Honda CB500 / Kawasaki EX500 (only I THINK) And that is what i believe would make such a class worth it. And also allow those who want to buy off the shelf do so...as well as the good old kiwi build it myself. IMHO a good modern intermeadiate class.

[tail_end_charlie]

So.................like Pro-Twin less 150cc and modifications?

[slowpoke]

Actually, remind me why we have Clubmans at Nationals??

So the average Club racer has a class they can race in. After all it is their club's money and their club's resources being put on the line for "blow in's" to come have a play. It's also the one decent chance for the average club racer to showcase any sponsors in front of a reasonable crowd.

[quickbuck]

So the average Club racer has a class they can race in. After all it is their club's money and their club's resources being put on the line for "blow in's" to come have a play. It's also the one decent chance for the average club racer to showcase any sponsors in front of a reasonable crowd.

What is stopping you entering the actual class?
I did last year because it would be stupid to put a 250 Production bike in Clubmans.
I did quite well in the end....
That said, I may not be the average club racer.....

[jellywrestler]

What is stopping you entering the actual class?
I did last year because it would be stupid to put a 250 Production bike in Clubmans.
I did quite well in the end....

bikes that are outside the rules
riders that are not quick enough for a nats class
riders who want shorter races

[quickbuck]

Lets see how flamed I get for this:

bikes that are outside the rules - Get one that IS
riders that are not quick enough for a nats class - Go FASTER, or Learn how
riders who want shorter races - Get Fitter

[Deano]

So.................like Pro-Twin less 150cc and modifications?

Yup.

Is it really a good idea to introduce even more categories into racing and dilute class numbers even further ?

How is that good for the sport ?

[White trash]

So you want a mid-sized, commuter bike class. Sort of liiiiiiike, pro-twins?

[Skunk]

I think we need a class for every 100cc of engine capacity and those should be split further by the number of cylinders. Split the result by two stroke and four with an offshoot of wankels and supercharged.
So:
1200cc maximum/100cc = 12 classes
times 1 to 4 clyinders = 48 classes
times 2 or 4 stroke or wankel = 144 classes
times 2 for the supercharged = 288 classes.
I think we now have enough for everyone to be a winner of their one lap race!

Oh shit, I forgot the gas turbine engined bikes...
Oh, and the proddy/specials/factory/race special splits.

[jellywrestler]

I think we need a class for every 100cc of engine capacity and those should be split further by the number of cylinders. Split the result by two stroke and four with an offshoot of wankels and supercharged.
So:
1200cc maximum/100cc = 12 classes
times 1 to 4 clyinders = 48 classes
times 2 or 4 stroke or wankel = 144 classes
times 2 for the supercharged = 288 classes.
I think we now have enough for everyone to be a winner of their one lap race!

Oh shit, I forgot the gas turbine engined bikes...

there's a lot of miderange bikes that you're disadvantaging, 450 550 650 750 i think you should have 50cc increments to be fairer

then of course the triumph 675 would be an orphan so maybe 25cc increments are even more fairer???

[Skunk]

So the average Club racer has a class they can race in. After all it is their club's money and their club's resources being put on the line for "blow in's" to come have a play. It's also the one decent chance for the average club racer to showcase any sponsors in front of a reasonable crowd.

The average club racer should be in a race class - not Clubmans! Nationals is a showcase opportunity that gets squandered over and over. Why run the 'dip your toes in racing and see if you like it' class at Nationals. It's a Club level class.
If you want to open it up to average club racer find another class - Posties, F1, F2 for instance. I would have run Posties if I thought they could find their way south of Hampton. Seems they have lost their map recently. VMCC choose to run F1/F2 for Nationals.

[Skunk]

Should we give 500 Production Racing a try?
As the new CB500, ( Parallel Twin) hits the showroom floors soon, is the time approaching to consider racing 500 Production bikes in ENZED?

You can race that now and it has it's own class. It's called Superlite.

[Skunk]

there's a lot of miderange bikes that you're disadvantaging, 450 550 650 750 i think you should have 50cc increments to be fairer

then of course the triumph 675 would be an orphan so maybe 25cc increments are even more fairer???

Damit! We're going to run out of riders soon. Maybe time for a class for non riders?