The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[mashman]

Hey this should get you conspiracy theorists fizzing at the bung. I use the iGovt thing a bit (companies office) and this was a link off that site:

first its voluntary: then its "Voluntary" but only if you dont want the state support that you're entitled to/ Then its compulsory (but only for scummy benny fraudsters so that Paula Bennett can sit on them if they do the wrong thing, then its compulsory for all (becuase EVERYONE depends on the state), then the Stasi (sorry, po po) are shipping people off for re-education to Huntly or Invercargill or the Chathams.

"Realme" indeed.

http://www.realme.govt.nz/

Great efficiencies are to be realised by putting forms online, because the current systems don't talk to each other... was what I was told.

[BoristheBiter]

Why ??? People here don't really care that much - so don't waste you time ...

That's dead right.
Who reaaly cares (other than they normal ones on here)?

Life is way too short to worry about about shit I just don't care about, have no control over, can't change, doesn't effect me or all of the above.

see ya later, I'm off snowboarding.

[Brian d marge]

Well it kinda does matter
And if you don't mind paying " loadsa moneey" for your rego , electricity, water , standard of living

Or how about being able to see your kids grow up ,,,in person not just on Skype

Or if none of the above , how about having some sort of idea about what one is talking about,

Why do I need to bother about any of this , I mean I worked hard I have a house a job , my kids are in Australia working for a big company ,,,,,,

Answer , you don't need to YOU are all right .....sweet as ....

As for not understanding your county's history , let alone trying to make a better future is the hallmark of a true imbecile.
Stephen

[BoristheBiter]

Well it kinda does matter
And if you don't mind paying " loadsa moneey" for your rego , electricity, water , standard of living

Or how about being able to see your kids grow up ,,,in person not just on Skype

Or if none of the above , how about having some sort of idea about what one is talking about,

Why do I need to bother about any of this , I mean I worked hard I have a house a job , my kids are in Australia working for a big company ,,,,,,

Answer , you don't need to YOU are all right .....sweet as ....

As for not understanding your county's history , let alone trying to make a better future is the hallmark of a true imbecile.
Stephen

Oh I understand my history very well thanks (i can trace my family back 500 years) and unless it something worth while it makes no difference.
No I don't like paying loads of money for my rego, that's why it is no hold, But if I have to choose between ACC or private health care (like the US) then I am quite happy to pay. (you should see the ACC costs for work, makes bike rego look like loose change)

I don't have kids so can't comment

I have worked hard for what I have, never asked for anything, gave up lots to do the things I enjoy and still there those that just have their hand out, lazy fuckers that think they are owed something and me bleating about it on some random forum is not going to change that.

Am I alright? yes, do I care about everyone else? not particularly, do they care about me? probably not.

I care about this country just as much as you, maybe more as I am still here and haven't jump ship because the grass looks green somewhere else.

[mashman]

and me bleating

baaaaaaaaaaaa

[Oscar]

baaaaaaaaaaaa

Hmmm, somewhat more sense than usual...

You may be the first example of someone suffering from an on line speech impediment.
Either that, or as I suspected all along, you post by bashing your forehead randomly on your keyboard.

[Brian d marge]

[QUOTE=BoristheBiter;1130532808]Oh I understand my history very well thanks (i can trace my family back 500 years) and unless it something worth while it makes no difference. I cant trace my family , lost in the armpit of east london at the turn of the century , we did own a very dodgy wood yard in stratford e17
No I don't like paying loads of money for my rego, that's why it is no hold, But if I have to choose between ACC or private health care (like the US) then I am quite happy to pay. (you should see the ACC costs for work, makes bike rego look like loose change) i know the ACC costs and all that is related , my mother is the person you go to when ACC gives you a reaming , she has won many points of law against the powers that be ! ( listening to her on the phone to a person who has had an injury , but really has NO idea WTF is going on , ( your average kiwi line worker, in the meatworks ) if almost heartbreaking . fk me I could tell you some stories !

I don't have kids so can't comment ( expensive , and its more fun trying to make them )

I have worked hard for what I have, never asked for anything, gave up lots to do the things I enjoy and still there those that just have their hand out, lazy fuckers that think they are owed something and me bleating about it on some random forum is not going to change that. ( it might , there maybe one person out there who think ,,,oh maybe he has a point ! , or gives you a new way of thinking that you never thought of before , and its just plain fun taking the piss out of Oscar .

Am I alright? yes, do I care about everyone else? not particularly, do they care about me? probably not. Wrong... I care

I care about this country just as much as you, maybe more as I am still here and haven't jump ship because the grass looks green somewhere else.

if the water is coming over the bow, and the captain is donkey , the grass is greener ( especially if you have a family and your career is in Motorcycle design ! not much of that going on in NZ ! ) BUT that shouldnt and doesnt stop me from caring or trying to change things

letters to the MP are freepost within NZ ( not that they read them ) but if presented in a gentle style you get a response ( Sometimes on Jim in the Afternoons! ) ...

Stephen

[BoristheBiter]

it might , there maybe one person out there who think ,,,oh maybe he has a point ! , or gives you a new way of thinking that you never thought of before.

Could you really see ANY gobberment stopping needless benefits? that's the Labour core voter.

Wrong... I care



if the water is coming over the bow, and the captain is donkey , the grass is greener ( especially if you have a family and your career is in Motorcycle design ! not much of that going on in NZ ! ) BUT that shouldnt and doesnt stop me from caring or trying to change things

At this point in time I think he is the best we have, look at the other choices we have
As for the sinking ship analogy, I think you are just plain wrong and we are in a very strong position, I just think you guys need something to pass the time.

[BoristheBiter]

baaaaaaaaaaaa

Where's the mint sauce?

Cooperate or I will beat you with a leek (a cooked one of course)

[Brian d marge]

At this point in time I think he is the best we have, look at the other choices we have
As for the sinking ship analogy, I think you are just plain wrong and we are in a very strong position, I just think you guys need something to pass the time.

IF you look at NZ from the banks point of view , NZ treasury have/are one of the best in the world

BUT Im sorry no , the standard of living is shyt ( compared to what I have here)

April last year , I rented a house in diamond Bay chch for a couple of weeks , lovely place , really nice but Iwas shock at the bad teeth and eyes and the cost of going out

My old man had lung cancer , really good , but fk me how long was that waiting etc........

I will accept the not many people here point ,, but there is no excuse for bad teeth and eyes

esp when we DID have good care

Stephen

[BoristheBiter]

IF you look at NZ from the banks point of view , NZ treasury have/are one of the best in the world

BUT Im sorry no , the standard of living is shyt ( compared to what I have here)

April last year , I rented a house in diamond Bay chch for a couple of weeks , lovely place , really nice but Iwas shock at the bad teeth and eyes and the cost of going out

My old man had lung cancer , really good , but fk me how long was that waiting etc........

I will accept the not many people here point ,, but there is no excuse for bad teeth and eyes

esp when we DID have good care

Stephen

we have always had bad teeth as it has never been free but i do get your point.

As for the rest I strongly disagree. I have yet to find another country where I can do the things I enjoy without costing me an arm and a leg(sometimes a kidney).
The things you compare it against my be better in Japan but if you want to live in a city that has 40 million people be my guest.

[Ocean1]

but there is no excuse for bad teeth and eyes

esp when we DID have good care

When did NZ's public healthcare funding ever cover teeth and eyes, Outside of school children?

NZ healthcare is also one of the best in the world, and we have better health care now than at any time in our history, both in terms of total budget allocation and the number of available services.

[Brian d marge]

Mate trust me
Its crap
I went to the local gp in diamond harbour how long was the wait......2 he's and that was in diamond harbour:-)
I have just been to the hospital here, sore hip, xray ct scan , blood test and pharmacy.... In 1.5 hours,,,, teeth, coat me 100 bucks to get an impacted wisdom tooth removed, big problem that one
No sorry it cheaper and more convenient to fly overseas and people do , see medical holidays
And while Tokyo is big the rest of Japan is empty,,,,ish

Stephen

[mashman]

Hmmm, somewhat more sense than usual...

You may be the first example of someone suffering from an on line speech impediment.
Either that, or as I suspected all along, you post by bashing your forehead randomly on your keyboard.

You understood it well enough. Post finds target audience, yay, all happy.

Where's the mint sauce?

Cooperate or I will beat you with a leek (a cooked one of course)

It will be provided once you've been cooked with your leek.

[SPman]

When did NZ's public healthcare funding ever cover teeth and eyes, Outside of school children?

NZ healthcare is also one of the best in the world, and we have better health care now than at any time in our history, both in terms of total budget allocation and the number of available services.

Don't know about teeth, but I had a cataract done at Greenlane - had to wait 6 months but, and the wait for the second eye would have been 9-12 months. Moved to Oz very shortly after (not for work, or because I hated NZ - quite the contrary), and the local country Dr took one look at the second eye and it was done within 6 weeks - on medicare.

The push to get people on Health insurance in Oz is a worry.......hope it doesn't take hold in NZ - a decent health service available to all for free is one of the foundations of a decent society.