Does your bike comply?

[SWERVE]

Just throwing this into the 'pot': Has anyone heard of using silcone sealant on fastners? It seems a wee blob between the head of the fastner and the solid part it's mounting to is as good as lockwiring! I was very surprised myself, but the guy in our garage at the TT got scutineered and raced with such. Apparently many others do too.

Just sayin', that's all.

That probebly works fine as long as you have no contaminant on the surfaces - its heat and brake fliuid resistant - its had time to cure properly. Some adhesive selants are the business...Lotus have glued their chassis together for a while now. I had some of that (it was German product) once it was on it wasnt coming off in a hurry. Still think lockwire/clips are better as they are visual to both competitor and scrutineer. IMHO

[RobGassit]

I think we should make all the lockwiring be in a rescue orange colour, so the flag marshals can clearly see it when you pass their point.

[SWERVE]

I think we should make all the lockwiring be in a rescue orange colour, so the flag marshals can clearly see it when you pass their point.

Actually lockwire in a flouro colour (coated) aint a bad idea.......... ive got some black coated stuff from Hunting & Fishing.

[Souther flags]

Hell Dont flaggies see enough all ready.

[Dave-]

I read this thread a few days ago and started wondering about the rear facing red flahing light spec, I came here to ask about it and see others have raised concerns too.

I think it should flash, I think the theory behind the flashing is that a flashing light is easier to get a reference in terms of a change in distance as opposed to an always on light - I could be wrong, I can nip over to the psychology department and ask though? I think if it's annoying it's just more motivation to try and pass the guy haha, honestly though it cant be any more annoying than an exhaust?

I had a quick zoom around the internet and couldn't find any safety regs for motorcycle racing (the FIA system for reading the rules and regs is super dumb)

I did find the formula 1 rules though, interestingly even FIA technical doesn't state a frequency or duty cycle, i assume it's tied into the FIA designated manufacturer (and it probably costs 14 million euro's)

14.5 Rear light:
All cars must have a red light in working order throughout the Event which:
- has been supplied by an FIA designated manufacturer;
- faces rearwards at 90° to the car centre line and the reference plane;
- is clearly visible from the rear;
- is mounted nominally on the car centre line;
- is mounted 300mm (+/-5mm) above the reference plane;
- is no less than 595mm behind the rear wheel centre line measured parallel to the reference plane;
- can be switched on by the driver when seated normally in the car.
The two measurements above will be taken to the centre of the rear face of the light unit.

How about how it is mounted? is velco enough? personally I think it should be fixed, clipped on is acceptable.

[Deano]

I might have some difficulty trying to hold three litres of fluid in my belly pan. I've had to cut a fair bit away so it doesn't fowl on the exhaust. I wonder if the rule will be specific as to area dimensions and exact location.

[RobGassit]

I might have some difficulty trying to hold three litres of fluid in my belly pan. I've had to cut a fair bit away so it doesn't fowl on the exhaust. I wonder if the rule will be specific as to area dimensions and exact location.

It should be fine. Figure out how much your belly pan WILL hold and then only put that much in your engine. Ezy Peezy..

[codgyoleracer]

I might have some difficulty trying to hold three litres of fluid in my belly pan. I've had to cut a fair bit away so it doesn't fowl on the exhaust. I wonder if the rule will be specific as to area dimensions and exact location.

Actually 3 litres when spread out in a long-ish belly pan aint that deep. Obviously this proposed rule will assist to some extent but nothing can truly "seal" the oil into/onto your bike. (babysteps)

[codgyoleracer]

Just putting it out there, would you guys prefer a blinking led or just a solid led light on the tail? I'm thinking it could be distracting following a bunch of bikes each with thier own flashing light.

Umm, flashing type will indeed be highly visable in instances of rain, dim light, spray etc. Sort of the point though innit ?

[SWERVE]

I might have some difficulty trying to hold three litres of fluid in my belly pan. I've had to cut a fair bit away so it doesn't fowl on the exhaust. I wonder if the rule will be specific as to area dimensions and exact location.

Deano.. i thought exactly the same at weekend when i was fitting bodywork to the SV (yes it will soon be back on track) But i had an idea... as the SV belly pan is quite long and the front section is deep (under sump) and rear section tapers off (and does require cutting to miss exhaust) im going to glass in a DAM across the bellypan just behind the engine to contain oil etc in the front half... (still holds way more than 3litres.

[malcy25]

Umm, flashing type will indeed be highly visable in instances of rain, dim light, spray etc. Sort of the point though innit ?

This I don't think is a bad idea....if you want to see what is available these days, pop down to your local up spec push bike shop and have a squiz at some of the units they sell for <$50. Tiny, lighter than a light thing (no pun..!) elastic mount, USB chargeable, long run time and many have hard on (no pun...) or flashing different rate. Bright as buggery too.

My treadly one is about 2cm wide, 3 cm high and <1 cm deep, lasts 6+ hours of flashing, bright enough to hurt the eyes at night

http://www.hotcycles.co.nz/products/gem-3-usb-red-led/

[scorry]

What if its starts raining during the first 2/3's of a race then the race gets red flagged?
You arent allowed to tamper with the bike - including changing tyres
You cant fit the red light until you pit under racing conditions.
So therefore if you restart with a red light, you could get protested and if you restart (still on slicks i may add) without one you are also breaching the rules
So... does that mean that if it looks like rain the light should be fitted and working?
Therefore racing at Teretonga a light needs to be fitted full time, cos who knows what the weather will do down there

[Dave-]

What if its starts raining during the first 2/3's of a race then the race gets red flagged?
You arent allowed to tamper with the bike - including changing tyres
You cant fit the red light until you pit under racing conditions.
So therefore if you restart with a red light, you could get protested and if you restart (still on slicks i may add) without one you are also breaching the rules
So... does that mean that if it looks like rain the light should be fitted and working?
Therefore racing at Teretonga a light needs to be fitted full time, cos who knows what the weather will do down there

Or you could just put a switch on the dash?

I think the rule needs to stipulate too that the light be mounted on the middle at the very end tip of the bike, and that this point must be further back than the rear wheel, otherwise there's no point in having the rule.

[arkeye]

What if its starts raining during the first 2/3's of a race then the race gets red flagged?
You arent allowed to tamper with the bike - including changing tyres
You cant fit the red light until you pit under racing conditions.
So therefore if you restart with a red light, you could get protested and if you restart (still on slicks i may add) without one you are also breaching the rules
So... does that mean that if it looks like rain the light should be fitted and working?
Therefore racing at Teretonga a light needs to be fitted full time, cos who knows what the weather will do down there

The wording of the proposed rule answers this...

Once the meeting has been declared wet, a rear facing flashing red LED light must be fitted and operational

If a race is red flagged and then declared wet, they have to give you sufficient time to adjust your bike before the restart.

If it starts raining and the meeting has not been 'declared wet', you just carry on without the red light

[slowpoke]

Therefore racing at Teretonga a light needs to be fitted full time, cos who knows what the weather will do down there

People race at Teretonga? REALLY?! Go figure......