Looking to buy my first RV/SUV (first 4 wheeled vehicle)

[leathel]

There is a manual Honda CRV in my workshop ATM getting a tidy up (It will get upgraded when the owner starts her Rep job) that will get sold in a few months...Manual even heck

I can ask what they will want for it if you are interested, tidy but not a serious 4x4 as no low range.

[ducatilover]

What's a good example of a good forester?

Low km, NZ new, preferably non-turbo and manual, service history.

[_Shrek_]

What's a good example of a good forester?

one that some one else owns

[Drew]

one that some one else owns

What he said.

I believe Subaru are over rated.

[ducatilover]

What he said.

I believe Subaru are over rated.

I always whinge about what finicky pricks of things they are, yet nobody seems to agree. I'll even go and list a zillion common issues, yet nobody bothers to listen. Then they complain about cambelts? They're fucking easy, try any FWD V6 in comparison.
Jebus, even my European cars have been more reliable than the majority of Subarus I've known

[Matariki]

I was having a think about the Subaru Forester, aren't they popular cars for car thieves to break into and steal?

[Drew]

I was having a think about the Subaru Forester, aren't they popular cars for car thieves to break into and steal?

Turbo ones still get pinched a little bit. But the thievery market has moved on to other things now. WRXs were the most commonly stolen car in the country for a while.

[The Reibz]

If you buy a diesel. Have fun paying the rego

[Drew]

If you buy a diesel. Have fun paying the rego

Engine size comes into the equation with diesel registration. It pays to look up the cut off points for different pricing, but 2.4 and under is similar to a petrol car from memory.

[ducatilover]

I was having a think about the Subaru Forester, aren't they popular cars for car thieves to break into and steal?

Yup, because every cap wearing low jeans fellow wants parts for 'em. And they're easy to steal, pillarless windows may look sexy, but you can get in to 'em so easy (good if you leave your keys in it)

[Drew]

Yup, because every cap wearing low jeans fellow wants parts for 'em. And they're easy to steal, pillarless windows may look sexy, but you can get in to 'em so easy (good if you leave your keys in it)

To a car thief, pillars or not makes no bloody difference. The market for teh cars was huge, so now the market for parts to service them, is huge.

Simple.

[ducatilover]

To a car thief, pillars or not makes no bloody difference. The market for teh cars was huge, so now the market for parts to service them, is huge.

Simple.

It's not just for the parts market though, they're fuckin easy to pinch and turbo ones are kind of fun to drive (more so if you're a dumb theiving wanker who probably aspirses to own a 3.8 VN Commodore)
So joyriders love to pinch them, I've had heaps of mates have WRX/STI RSK-B4s etc nicked and most of them are purely by some faggot wanting to rape the shit out of them and steal the stereo

Plus, being from Wainuiomata, I expect everyone I knew as a kid there has stolen a few cars and most would be Subies, just because all you do is pull the window back and get something to unlatch the door
Much quiter than putting a baby fetus through the window (apparently...)

[BMWST?]

I was under the impression the Autos were better in the rough stuff.... easier to get a crawl going without risk of stalling it. That's just what I've been told/read though, never taken the Range Rover into any real off-roading yet, handles paddocks great though. Oh don't buy one of them... 16-20L/100ks depending if you're towing or not. And only runs on 95.

Edit: and for downhill slow descents, my Auto has lockout in 1st when the diff-locks are engaged.

most autos dont have any engine braking in high range.And you dont drive everywhere in low range.if the ground is uneven and the front wheel is in a hole there is no finesse with an auto...you press the go pedal and nothing happens so you press it some more..nothing...more...nothing more...and you launch out of the hole you are in and smack into the rock in the middle of the stream you were trying to avoid with your so called soft start auto.If you do put it in low range the bloody thing wont change up....(this is a toyota prado)From my limited experience i would never have an auto for off road stuff.

[BMWST?]

If you pick a good Forester I suspect it'll be a little cheaper to run.
Driving over the 'takas I expect you'll see around 9L/100km in one.

Banditbandit is right about the Subaru being more comfortable, and they definitely drive a million times better on the road (because they're essentially a big Imprezza)
But I cannot stress how careful you need to be picking one, it has to be uber tidy and have good service records. Otherwise you're in for trouble.

I would still recommend one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-582750407.htm
It has the GA15DE motor, which is rock solid and runs a cam chain

Or one of these (I think the Nissan is a bit better value) http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-589765756.htm
They run the uber reliable 7AFE motor, some had the even more reliable 4AFE. (we have a 'rolla with the 4AFE and it has done 502,000km )

The Forester is the nicest driver's car of the bunch though.
If you do buy one, get it serviced by Scott Miller in Masterton, he's a Subaru genius.

9 km l going over the takas...i dont think so

[BMWST?]

Engine size comes into the equation with diesel registration. It pays to look up the cut off points for different pricing, but 2.4 and under is similar to a petrol car from memory.

negative my 2 l diesel is over 400 bucks a year .The is no acc levy on diesel so you pay it on the refo