Nzsbk 2014

[quickbuck]

Hmmmm, an older guy racing a cheap to buy, cheap to run, safe (as it can be really) to race, fun to race, low HP but works well bike, having a ball and neither breaking the bank or himself (well not often anyway).
Imagine that......

Mmmm,

Never thought we were ever gonna agree on anything,But youve got me there,Might be a good idea if some of these other throttle jockeys on 600s and 1000s gave it a shot first up as well.

New graduated licence should fix it for the future(If the ugliest secretary EVER,Gets around to sending me the minutes from the workshop at AGM)

At least you two get it......
I would hate to offend some people by saying they should race a bike within their means, and not think everybody has to ride 600+ to be fast.

Love this video..... Sums it up on most track days I do too....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz03sQeX02c

[quickbuck]

Hahahaha. Were an average punter to pay for the professional hours Richards motor has consumed, he could fuckin near by and race a supersport bike for a year.

Why thank you.... THAT is the only reason he beat me
Nothing to do with riding better at all

Of course, yup, to be making the power he is out of a 150 is pretty amazing.

[Mental Trousers]

Hmmmm, an older guy racing a cheap to buy, cheap to run, safe (as it can be really) to race, fun to race, low HP but works well bike, having a ball and neither breaking the bank or himself (well not often anyway).
Imagine that......

Mmmm,

Never thought we were ever gonna agree on anything,But youve got me there,Might be a good idea if some of these other throttle jockeys on 600s and 1000s gave it a shot first up as well.

New graduated licence should fix it for the future(If the ugliest secretary EVER,Gets around to sending me the minutes from the workshop at AGM)

At least you two get it......
I would hate to offend some people by saying they should race a bike within their means, and not think everybody has to ride 600+ to be fast.

Love this video..... Sums it up on most track days I do too....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz03sQeX02c

F3 is a great budget class for those of us who need something a little roomier

Pro Twins is another one, although the number of broken SV motors would seem to mean it's not as cost effective as it would seem.

[quickbuck]

F3 is a great budget class for those of us who need something a little roomier

Pro Twins is another one, although the number of broken SV motors would seem to mean it's not as cost effective as it would seem.

Yes good point.....
I like doing something different to my team mate though

[Mental Trousers]

Yes good point.....
I like doing something different to my team mate though

You mean like finishing races with a working bike?

[Billy]

You mean like finishing races with a working bike?

Now thats just nasty

[quickbuck]

Now thats just nasty

Sometimes the truth hurts
But yeah, a little unfair.

[jasonu]

Love this video..... Sums it up on most track days I do too....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz03sQeX02c

Nice clip. That is what it was like riding a fast Bucket in F3 at the old Taupo circuit or an RS125 in F3 at Puke before the 125's got their own class.

[Drew]

At least you two get it......
I would hate to offend some people by saying they should race a bike within their means, and not think everybody has to ride 600+ to be fast.

Love this video..... Sums it up on most track days I do too....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz03sQeX02c

That video shows a guy who can ride the bike, and some other guys can't. I do get your point.

But it's not an argument against what I was trying to say. It doesn't address my point at all.

There are lots of us out there, who simply cannot afford to race the class we have and would again want to. Who simply wouldn't get the buzz out of little bikes, (me in particular, since I can't take a smooth sweeping line on a track to fuckin save myself).

I'm sure hoards of people will make comment that I'm a crasher, and one of those who shouldn't be out there on something fast. Before anyone does though, ask around and see if I've ever taken anyone else out. Or even run anyone off track.

[swarfie]

Love this video..... Sums it up on most track days I do too....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz03sQeX02c

Thanks for that...PMSL. Cool video. I did the same to a couple of mates a few years ago over the Whangamata loop with my daughter Jo's FXR150. They were riding an R1 and a SP1 VTR and the little bike absolutely smoked them, they couldn't believe it...didn't have a look in

[Drew]

Thanks for that...PMSL. Cool video. I did the same to a couple of mates a few years ago over the Whangamata loop with my daughter Jo's FXR150. They were riding an R1 and a SP1 VTR and the little bike absolutely smoked them, they couldn't believe it...didn't have a look in

The video is from a track day, in the intermediate group. Lets not give the obviously good rider too much props, for beating the noobs on fast bikes.

[swarfie]

The video is from a track day, in the intermediate group. Lets not give the obviously good rider too much props, for beating the noobs on fast bikes.

Point taken but one of the these guys is a top rider in the classic scene here and when we swapped bikes I struggled to keep up on his SP1 as well

[Drew]

Point taken but one of the these guys is a top rider in the classic scene here and when we swapped bikes I struggled to keep up on his SP1 as well

I don't doubt it Nev. Given a couple handy riders the learn or two when riding an RGV myself.

Back to the topic at hand though. The graduated licence system is certainly a good idea, but if the likes of myself are required to go back and race 250s before being allowed to get out there on a fast bike again, I'd prolly give it a miss. To it's logical end, we would have to. There are certainly many out there who cannot handle the sheer speed and power of their bikes, so a blanket rule would need to be in place.

[quickbuck]

That video shows a guy who can ride the bike, and some other guys can't. I do get your point.

But it's not an argument against what I was trying to say. It doesn't address my point at all.

There are lots of us out there, who simply cannot afford to race the class we have and would again want to. Who simply wouldn't get the buzz out of little bikes, (me in particular, since I can't take a smooth sweeping line on a track to fuckin save myself).

I'm sure hoards of people will make comment that I'm a crasher, and one of those who shouldn't be out there on something fast. Before anyone does though, ask around and see if I've ever taken anyone else out. Or even run anyone off track.

So....... Sometimes one just has to look at what they CAN afford and make a sacrifice, compromise, or what ever you want to call it....
Better to be out having fun than a very expensive dust collector in the shed I say.

Maybe if you stepped it back a little then you will learn how to take a smooth sweeping line, however in reality a late brake, very fast steering turn in, and on the gas early workes very well for little (4 Stroke) bikes too.....
It is more about slowing yourself down, learning the craft of riding, and then adding speed later....
Where have I said that before????

I assure you the speed doesn't matter when you are 20 cm or closer to the bike next to you to get the "Buzz".

[Drew]

So....... Sometimes one just has to look at what they CAN afford and make a sacrifice, compromise, or what ever you want to call it....
Better to be out having fun than a very expensive dust collector in the shed I say.

Maybe if you stepped it back a little then you will learn how to take a smooth sweeping line, however in reality a late brake, very fast steering turn in, and on the gas early workes very well for little (4 Stroke) bikes too.....
It is more about slowing yourself down, learning the craft of riding, and then adding speed later....
Where have I said that before????

I assure you the speed doesn't matter when you are 20 cm or closer to the bike next to you to get the "Buzz".

I have looked at what I can do to stay out there. Sidecars is where it's at!