Stupid World

[mashman]

Sucks to be a doley that doesn't want to be.

[blue rider]

interesting read on the three strikes provision in the US...its 5 pages, so it is a bit of a read.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...0130327?page=5

[blue rider]

Sucks to be a doley that doesn't want to be.

the new norm, catch 22's everywhere.
but hey she should just get a haircut and a job ....

[mashman]

interesting read on the three strikes provision in the US...its 5 pages, so it is a bit of a read.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...0130327?page=5

... no money, no criminals.

the new norm, catch 22's everywhere.
but hey she should just get a haircut and a job ....

Aye, like the one in your Rolling Stone article:

"It would later turn out that in order for Gaines' jail doctors to consult with his normal prison doctors, he needed to make a request in writing. The only problem was, he had no paper. This issue had come up before, when Gaines tried to apply for acceptance into a post-release­ program. The only way to get paper was something straight out of Catch-22: He had to make a request – in writing."

Stupid world alright.

[scumdog]

"It would later turn out that in order for Gaines' jail doctors to consult with his normal prison doctors, he needed to make a request in writing. The only problem was, he had no paper. This issue had come up before, when Gaines tried to apply for acceptance into a post-release­ program. The only way to get paper was something straight out of Catch-22: He had to make a request – in writing."

One way of keeping people in prison eh...

[mashman]

One way of keeping people in prison eh...

Gotta get them in there in the first place

[blue rider]

One way of keeping people in prison eh...

or else you and your mates might be future dolebludgers ei?

[blue rider]

how to bankrupt a nation....and no it was not the ordinary joe and jane sixpack wanting to buy houses n' shit.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...-29366839.html

[mashman]

how to bankrupt a nation....and no it was not the ordinary joe and jane sixpack wanting to buy houses n' shit.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...-29366839.html

Holy FUCK... I wonder how true that is?

[blue rider]

Holy FUCK... I wonder how true that is?

it appears to be quite true, and on tape.
thats the thing, a bit like nixon and so many others...they too are recordered and under surveillance.

the notion that banks don't rig the system is quaint. when an institution is considered to big to fail...that institution is to big to exists.

but lets continue blaming ourselves and our neighbours...those that seem to have more than us for living beyond their means and those that don't have enough for living to lavishly....you see what I am doing here?

[mashman]

it appears to be quite true, and on tape.
thats the thing, a bit like nixon and so many others...they too are recordered and under surveillance.

the notion that banks don't rig the system is quaint. when an institution is considered to big to fail...that institution is to big to exists.

but lets continue blaming ourselves and our neighbours...those that seem to have more than us for living beyond their means and those that don't have enough for living to lavishly....you see what I am doing here?

... yeah them thar banks is all squeaky clean and as long as the politicians stick to the script, the professionals will look in the wrong direction whilst believing they can prove the politicians point.

Whereas it all started with a brain fart

[mashman]

It's all in the context. Give people the money and they will not have to resort to crime. Don't and they will, irrespective of how good a person they are.

[Smifffy]

It's all in the context. Give people the money and they will not have to resort to crime. Don't and they will, irrespective of how good a person they are.

So what about the people that get given money and still commit crime? What about the people that commit non-violent but lucrative crime and then still commit violent crimes?

[blue rider]

So what about the people that get given money and still commit crime? What about the people that commit non-violent but lucrative crime and then still commit violent crimes?

People will find ways to survive when they can't find jobs and assistance is not covering the basics.
This is not new....this is as old as is the world.


In any case, the article does not refer to career criminals, it refers to people that buy stolen food (fallen of the truck we used to call that), because they can't afford the food in the supermarkets any more. (and most likely the odd other good that fell of the truck - ooops)

Violent criminals are not the same as someone who steels a pair of baby shoes, or a pack of bacon. They are not the same as someone who is apprehended smoking a joint.

As for the non violent but lucrative criminals? You mean the bankers that got us in to the financial crisis with speculation and credit default swaps? Lehman Brothers? Goldman Sachs?AIG? - at last check all were to big to fail and to big to jail...well all but Lehman Brothers, they were allowed to go bust. I believe all these very lucrative criminals are still in bread and butter. Do you really want to compare them to some unemployed schmuck whose benefit has just been shortened by a couple of pounds or dollars?


Fuck, really what the fuck!

[Ocean1]

It's all in the context. Give people the money and they will not have to resort to crime. Don't and they will, irrespective of how good a person they are.

It's called a protection racket. And as I've said before, they can get fukt.