The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[gwigs]

So you're very concerned, but not concerned enough to tell us why..

If you can,t figure it out for yourself you must be walking around with your eyes and mind shut..

[Oscar]

Aye, coz good ole NZ is untouchable... Irrespective of what is going on around the globe.

And there we have it folks - he'll believe any old shit that he reads on the internet from anywhere in the world, but he doesn't trust his own democratically elected Govt.
This despite the fact that he's so un-engaged, cool and intellectually superior that he brags about not voting.
However he's quite happy to tell us what we should be doing to fix society.

My theory is that if you take into account his non-voting status, his politics, grammar, spelling and general hysterical attitude, there is only one answer: he's only 13 years old.

[Oscar]

If you can,t figure it out for yourself you must be walking around with your eyes and mind shut..

Gee, that's helpful.
Too lazy to use your words, huh?

[gwigs]

Gee, that's helpful.
Too lazy to use your words, huh?

No I cant be arsed explaining to a brain washed one eyed Fuckwit like you..

[blue rider]

Man that sounds cold to me in ways. I kind of understand why you would feel that way though... although I think TPTB can do much worse than has been seen for a long time, if not ever should they have a mind to. As yet, as far as I know, no group has had the kind of hold over the globe that these people seem to be aiming for and I'd rather not see my family, or any other family for that matter, grow up under such a regime that your family witnessed and paid for.

I know that TPTB can do much worse than they have been doing here.....they do pretty bad things elsewhere.

However, we must also accept that this planet is going to change and rather rapidly, if you have had a look at the Quadrennial Defense Review Report you will see that the problems humanity is going to face actually call for measures to control the public.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...icably-linked/

the Quadrenial Report from the Pentagon can be looked at here.....it makes as always for interested reading.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26120037/Q...-Review-Report
Now I don't consider the geezers at the pentagon as tinfoil hatters, despite their love for theatrical costumery.

However this is not the first time the Pentagon has been raising the alarm bells

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ws.theobserver
similar
http://grist.org/article/pentagoners/
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309088658
http://www.gbn.com/articles/pdfs/Abr...ary%202004.pdf

Flooding, Fires, Hurricanes, Droughts with resulting Food shortages, Housing Shortages etc etc.....these are all things we must accept. These events will and are already happening in certain parts of this planet, and already result in riots (India, Vietnam a couple of years ago with the Rice Shortages), and we will see more and more of 'environmental migration'.

world wide drought map http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com...ght-risk.html#
us drought map http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
nz drought map http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8412...nteractive-map
food security index http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-dev...risk-index-map
extreme weather map http://www.nrdc.org/health/extremeweather/


We must accept that this is what mass surveillance is needed for, crowd control - especially the control of subversives (and believe me they would include you and me into that category).

As said in an earlier Post, the police has the tools to listen to suspects calls, and read their telecomunications, all they have to do is ask a judge nicely and present due cause and usually they get their permits. So to say that this country, lovely NZ, is suddenly overrun by evil terrorists, and crims everywhere is a nothing but a farce.

I am merely resigned to the fact that we = humans, are not able to work for the good of the species, to many of us will only work for themselves and bugger the rest. Look around you and see the amount of misery on this planet. Cold I am not, I am just not surprised any more, nor am I teary eyed about it.

[Oscar]

No I cant be arsed explaining to a brain washed one eyed Fuckwit like you..

So you got nuthin', and never did (apart from abuse).
Run along, little boy...

[gwigs]

So you got nuthin', and never did (apart from abuse).
Run along, little boy...

Your outdated views mean fuck all to me..you run along little boy , happy in your in you state of denial..

[Banditbandit]

Right now government departments lawfully hold all kinds of information about you, have done for decades - and they don't disclose it. They don't even share data although its now possible for Immigration to stop fines defaulters at the border. But not tax defaulters or liable parent non-payers. Weird huh.

There are references to "they" being a threat. Do you know who "they" have proven to be in the real world? Not the high-ups, not the high-powered: when private personal or confidential information is released to the public it is done by some very ordinary person such as a clerk, administrator, pc tech, manager etc etc way down at the bottom of the totem pole.

That is who you really have to worry about. Not a spook but the unhappy guy/girl next door who works for WINZ/IRD/bank/hospital and releases terrabytes of private info cos they want to be famous or whatever.

So ... Operation 8 saw New Zealand childrern held at gunpoint on a school bus .. innocent New Zealand women and children turfed out of their beds on a cold morning at gunpoint ... New Zealand people stopped at gunpoint from going about their lawful business ...

All for a few months jail for a couple of people (they are out now) on minor firearms charges ... a rejection by the Solicitor General of the "Terrorism" accusations ... and an apology from the police for their over-reaction ...

Some Government agent (police, SIS, GCSB or whatever) hacked an MP's e-mail file ... on who's authority?? And an MP ??? Jeez wayne ...

And our Defence Forces class Investigative Journalists as a security threat ????

Do you wonder why we worry ??? We have seen the reality of state actions happen in our country ...

[Banditbandit]

Terrorism is the threat du jour but in reality its rare. High tech surveillance is used to discover drug trafficking, human smuggling, illegal arms trading, fraud across international borders, crime. That seems pretty reasonable to me.

Yeah .. that's why the Defence Forces class Investigative Journalists as a security threat !!! Do we really think that the GCSB should spy on our journalists???

[Banditbandit]

neither, i am not worried, nor concerned, I merely point out that what ever the americans dream up, it already has been done better elsewhere.

For me the third reich is part of my life, my grandmother lived through 2 wars, my mother lived through one. several houses full of war surviving widows and their children. I had no grandfathers, no male relatives over the age of 25 in my family, and I am a child of the sixties.
War to me is very much alive, the old man with burned faces and missing limbs, i still remember them well. The hoarding and the pinched faces during the saturday ABC sirenes aswell.

i am also without children, and have long ago accepted the fact that I only live for myself and I endeavour to leave as little trace of my existence as possible. I am the last of my kind, my family will die out with me. It is quite relaxing, I can look at the world, the morals we live by, our policies we create to pretend we are civilised, and not feel worried nor concerned, these morals and policies are not mine.

Why should I be worried that someone like scumdog is going to show up on my doorstep to go all gitmo on me. As the history of my country, the history of my grandparents has shown me, there is little we can do when it happens. When the boots come up the stairs, all are quiet.

At the end of my life I die, so it only matters that I live well.

Yes - I get all that ...

I hope that when the boots come up the stairs some of us, me included, are there with enough firepower to stop them ...

[Oscar]

Your outdated views mean fuck all to me..you run along little boy , happy in your in you state of denial..

Oh dear, I think we have got to the outer limit of both your intellect and your vocabulary.
That's a shame.

[gwigs]

Oh dear, I think we have got to the outer limit of both your intellect and your vocabulary.
That's a shame.

Oh yes I must bow to your superior intellect..
Like I say, your opinion means squat to me..

[Oscar]

Oh yes I must bow to your superior intellect..
Like I say, your opinion means squat to me..

Where did I say I was superior?
I was merely pointing out that you go from unsupported vitriolic opinion to abuse in about 2 seconds flat.
This makes you look stupid, and then you go on to the "..I know I am, but what are you?" school of (non)argument, which makes you look even dumber.

Ps. If you don't give a shit about my opinion, why did you answer my post?

[mashman]

And there we have it folks - he'll believe any old shit that he reads on the internet from anywhere in the world, but he doesn't trust his own democratically elected Govt.
This despite the fact that he's so un-engaged, cool and intellectually superior that he brags about not voting.
However he's quite happy to tell us what we should be doing to fix society.

My theory is that if you take into account his non-voting status, his politics, grammar, spelling and general hysterical attitude, there is only one answer: he's only 13 years old.

... So you've got nothing then.

I'm only 5.

[Oscar]

... So you've got nothing then.

I'm only 5.

I've got plenty.
Tell us about how you opt out of the democractic process, but still want to have your own economic system.
How will you achieve that? A coup de stupid ?