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    and this one....

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/...ion-with-spin/

    awesome Growth

    Consider for example the spin put on the “advance estimate” of the real GDP growth rate for the second quarter announced on July 31. The annual rate of 1.7 percent real GDP growth for the second quarter of 2013 was presented optimistically as an acceleration in real GDP from the first quarter’s 1.1 percent growth rate. However, the reason for the “acceleration” in growth is that the first quarter’s estimate was revised down from 1.8 percent to 1.1 percent. The second quarter GDP growth rate is also subject to revised estimates. Most likely, the final number will be lower.
    printing money like there is no tomorrow

    In order to support bond prices, the Fed has created 1,000 billion new dollars annually over the last several years. The supply of dollars has out grown the demand for dollars, putting the dollar’s exchange value under pressure. To protect the dollar from QE, the Fed and its dependent bullion banks have engaged in ruthless shorting of gold in order to suppress the price of gold. The rapidly rising gold price indicated falling confidence in the dollar, and the Fed feared that this lack of confidence would spread into the currency markets.
    consumers not consuming, they too would love to print money

    The use of foreign labor in place of US labor is beneficial to executives and shareholders in the short-run, but it is detrimental in the longer-run. The long-run effect is to destroy the US consumer market.

    When jobs offshoring halted the rise in US consumer income, in order to keep the economy going the Federal Reserve substituted a growth in consumer debt for the missing growth in consumer income. For example, the housing bubble created by Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan allowed home owners to spend the inflated equity in their homes by refinancing their mortgages. The substitution of consumer debt for the missing growth in real wages and salaries is limited by the burden of debt on households. Unlike the government, American citizens cannot print the money with which to pay their bills. Once consumers were unable to take on more debt, the consumer economy ceased to expand.

    blah blah blah

    The scary part of the pending economic crisis occurs when the federal budget deficit widens as the economy contracts and the Fed finds itself in a situation where it cannot print yet more dollars without causing a loss in confidence in the dollar and US Treasury bonds. What does a desperate government do in such a situation? It confiscates what remains of private pensions, piles on taxes, and drives the people and the economy deeper into the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue rider View Post
    and this is a good read, really it is

    http://www.vice.com/read/it-dont-git...Contentpage=-1
    Did someone claim that we were civilised? 166 remaining and only 20 that can be prosecuted. The military are nothing more than disgusting savages.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue rider View Post
    and this one....

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/...ion-with-spin/

    awesome Growth

    printing money like there is no tomorrow

    consumers not consuming, they too would love to print money

    blah blah blah
    So people are the problem because they use mechanism that is the best that mankind can devise to help those people who are causing the problem ... then again, it could be that money is BAD.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Tis the anunnaki ..there master plan is to enslave us all while they feed on our children

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue rider View Post
    .He should have studied something else....frying fries at MacDo maybe?
    He would have had a job then, not a masters in complaining about how he cant get one.

    Tis a sad fact - people only pay you to fix their problems. If you can't fix a problem then they have no need for you.
    It amazes me the people who think that because they are qualified in something they have a right to a job.
    Often comes from the mouths of those who never got a job in the first place.

    I see potential with someone who has an MA is Sociology in roles such as Organisational Behaviour, Team management, business analytics and PR. But its sounds like the MA isn't his problem for getting a job. It is the fact he is a dick.
    I don't hire arseholes, and it may shock the unemployed out there - many people try to avoid hiring arseholes.

    But no - lets pin this back on the corporate structure of the world...........because that is clearly the biggest reason why this lovely soul doesn't have a job.
    And Aliens is why he cant cook dinner.
    Government Tax is why he can't afford to buy cigarettes.
    Oppression is why he can't talk to girls.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    So people are the problem because they use mechanism that is the best that mankind can devise to help those people who are causing the problem ... then again, it could be that money is BAD.
    Is money good? Is money bad? No turns out neither - turns out that it is just a marketing campaign for BNZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Is money good? Is money bad? No turns out neither - turns out that it is just a marketing campaign for BNZ.
    No shit, really, an advert from a bank that deals in money telling people that it's what people do with money that makes it good or bad. I note that it doesn't mention anything about money being debt and that that debt is going to be landed on the shoulders of someone else or at the very least that that debt will be socialised so that everyone chips in to pay for the interest that's charged but can never be printed. Nothing like telling both sides of the story and then conveniently denying that there are more than 2 sides to the story.

    Money can change everything (show images of kids that are still dying around the world)

    The way you think (show torture)

    Act (show family man beating a vagrant and moving them from tent city)

    The way you live (show the slums of the world)

    It can turn you into someone you barely know (show various protests from across the globe)

    Do things you'd never do (show war and people being blown apart)

    Lead you to places you never imagined you'd go (show surveillance footage from around the world)

    And choices you never thought you'd make (show Nobel Peace Prize Winner Obama signing the NDAA)

    Is money good or bad. It turns out to be neither. It's absolutely fuckin tragic what we get away with in its name. Sorry, I mean it's what you do with it that counts .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    It's absolutely fuckin tragic what we get away with in its name. Sorry, I mean it's what you do with it that counts .
    And jellybeans, don't forget the jellybeans. The whole fucking world is corrupted by the lust for jellybeans, we need to round up all that perverted confectionary and bury the shit.

    Then it'll be sweetness and light all day.









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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    And jellybeans, don't forget the jellybeans. The whole fucking world is corrupted by the lust for jellybeans, we need to round up all that perverted confectionary and bury the shit.

    Then it'll be sweetness and light all day.

    No really!
    Only the black ones though... there are no white ones for a reason.
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    interesting bit of history

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...dren-s-Crusade

    nice read
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    He would have had a job then, not a masters in complaining about how he cant get one.

    Tis a sad fact - people only pay you to fix their problems. If you can't fix a problem then they have no need for you.
    It amazes me the people who think that because they are qualified in something they have a right to a job.
    Often comes from the mouths of those who never got a job in the first place.

    I see potential with someone who has an MA is Sociology in roles such as Organisational Behaviour, Team management, business analytics and PR. But its sounds like the MA isn't his problem for getting a job. It is the fact he is a dick.
    I don't hire arseholes, and it may shock the unemployed out there - many people try to avoid hiring arseholes.


    But no - lets pin this back on the corporate structure of the world...........because that is clearly the biggest reason why this lovely soul doesn't have a job.
    And Aliens is why he cant cook dinner.
    Government Tax is why he can't afford to buy cigarettes.
    Oppression is why he can't talk to girls.......

    squeek squeek

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    Is this something we should worry our pretty little heads?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97408V20130805

    The utility pumps out some 400 metric tons a day of groundwater flowing from the hills above the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant into the basements of the destroyed buildings, which mixes with highly irradiated water that is used to cool the reactors in a stable state below 100 degrees Celsius.

    Tepco is trying to prevent groundwater from reaching the plant by building a "bypass" but recent spikes of radioactive elements in sea water has prompted the utility to reverse months of denials and finally admit that tainted water is reaching the sea.
    tainted water....how quaint.
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    Is money good or bad?
    It's what you do with it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Only the black ones though... there are no white ones for a reason.
    I haz white jellybeans.

    The gnomes saves them for us filthy capitalists.





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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Money can change everything (show images of kids that are still dying around the world)
    The way you think (show torture)
    Stanley Milgram proved otherwise. His experiment shows that all you require is a lab coat to tell people everything is ok and to keep torturing. What people got paid became irrelevant.
    Bit of an eye opener. As raises the question - what if you were paid nothing, and got told to break the law because it was the "right thing to do" would you do it?

    According to his studies the answer is yes. If someone (who appeared) more knowledgeable on the matter said it was ok. Even if it went against your own conscience.

    Which raises the questions - in a protest. Who is a free thinker? Who's idea is it to break into a business? Who's idea was it to flip and burn cars?
    I don't have the answers.

    The wiki on his experiment is here - there is a video somewhere about it also. Well worth the watch.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
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