Putting diesel engines in V8 cars

**jasonu** · 18th August 2013, 17:08

Originally Posted by JimO

dont go buying a 6.2 chev diesel to put in anything they are crap

Yep the 80' and 90's chev diesels had a habit of head issues, steer well clear of them.

**dangerous** · 18th August 2013, 17:16

Putting diesel engines in V8 cars
well why wouldnt ya...

**dangerous** · 18th August 2013, 17:20

check out some of the diesel drag videos aswell...

**jasonu** · 18th August 2013, 18:40

Audi diesel race car. Fucking cool!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaUypCSEUTM

**dangerous** · 18th August 2013, 18:55

its got me farked why the nips didnt do a 2 stroke diesel for cars, instead just did small belt driven 4 stroke things... after all they did do a 6 cylinder 3 barrel 2 cycle diesel for a truck...

**pete376403** · 18th August 2013, 19:06

the older generation (ie pre electronics) Diesels were percived to be noisy, smelly, clattery, slow, expensive to fix, the sort of thing used in trucks and tractors - not what you want your customers to think of when you are a manufacturer trying to sell your vehicles as smooth, quiet, reliable, etc.

And I really like diesels - my apprenticship was with GG&H on Cats

And the three cylinder / six piston / 12 conrod thing was a Commer TS3 from the 1950s. Napier took it a few (quite a few) steps further with the Deltic.

**BMWST?** · 18th August 2013, 19:10

Originally Posted by pete376403

the older generation (ie pre electronics) Diesels were percived to be noisy, smelly, clattery, slow, expensive to fix, the sort of thing used in trucks and tractors -

and they mostly were wernt they?

**dangerous** · 18th August 2013, 19:29

Originally Posted by pete376403

And the three cylinder / six piston / 12 conrod thing was a Commer TS3 from the 1950s. Napier took it a few (quite a few) steps further with the Deltic.

commer no doubt did... but remember the posts on the Leyland thread recently were the Japs did a oposed 2 stroke diesel...

**vifferman** · 18th August 2013, 20:07

Originally Posted by BMWST?

I had the opportunity to buy a BMW 120d manual which i did because the ol 535 was just too thirsty and i had had it for 8 years.Now the little 2.0 diesl has 120 kw and 340nm of torque.Thats more grunt than a 3.5 litre petrol,and it uses HALF the fuel.Love it.At the other end of the scale my brother has a newish 4.5 litre V8 landcruiser.Now that has torque! 151kw and 450 Nm!

We had a Pajero 2.5 turbo diesel for a few years, and it was great to drive; plenty of torque. I had a high-sided trailer loaded up with hardwood firewood in Christchurch, and it just pulled away from the yard with no throttle.

Last year, I bought a 2010 VW Passat RLine TDi: 125 kw (170hp) 350Nm common-rail diesel with electronic injectors and a 6-speed DSG gearbox. It's brilliant! Last trip (last weekend) to Taupo and back, without being particularly careful, it averaged 5.4 litres/100km, which is 54mpg. Mental (but then on the highway it's only turning over 1500-1800 rpm in 'S' mode. Don't use 'D' as it actually uses more fuel as it's below the torque hump).
The engine (1968cc) is not highly stressed, and commonly remapped to give up to 230 hp, but I think I'll leave mine stock.

**Padmei** · 18th August 2013, 20:55

Originally Posted by vifferman

We had a Pajero 2.5 turbo diesel for a few years, and it was great to drive; plenty of torque. I had a high-sided trailer loaded up with hardwood firewood in Christchurch, and it just pulled away from the yard with no throttle.

Last year, I bought a 2010 VW Passat RLine TDi: 125 kw (170hp) 350Nm common-rail diesel with electronic injectors and a 6-speed DSG gearbox. It's brilliant! Last trip (last weekend) to Taupo and back, without being particularly careful, it averaged 5.4 litres/100km, which is 54mpg. Mental (but then on the highway it's only turning over 1500-1800 rpm in 'S' mode. Don't use 'D' as it actually uses more fuel as it's below the torque hump).
The engine (1968cc) is not highly stressed, and commonly remapped to give up to 230 hp, but I think I'll leave mine stock.

Did you spnd $44K on buying it tho?

I have to say the smell & noise of a diesel is pretty revolting.
The smell & noise of a V8 is fricking horny tho.

That landy looks the biz Flip. That is what i'm kinda after - old school looks/ feel but with newer engine efficiency. This is all cloud talk but I like dreaming about different wagons. The local plumber has an old 1949ish Chrysler panel truck. Very cool.

**BMWST?** · 18th August 2013, 21:46

If you want efficiency you gotta go turbo common rail

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**Motu** · 18th August 2013, 23:14

Originally Posted by dangerous

commer no doubt did... but remember the posts on the Leyland thread recently were the Japs did a oposed 2 stroke diesel...

And I corrected that post with them being a copy of the GMC/Detroit, in 3,4,5 and 6 cyl versions. They have an inline pump instead of unit injectors, made more power than a Detroit, but unreliable. I fitted a brand new electronic injector pump to a 2002 Pajero last week - $8,000 and a 6 week wait as there were none in stock and they had to build one up specially. Diesels are expensive to fix, and modern ones even more so.

I fitted a petrol engine into my diesel Escort - back then a 1600 petrol was way more powerful than a 1600 diesel, now a petrol option is the gutless option.

**Brian d marge** · 19th August 2013, 00:01

Originally Posted by dangerous

its got me farked why the nips didnt do a 2 stroke diesel for cars, instead just did small belt driven 4 stroke things... after all they did do a 6 cylinder 3 barrel 2 cycle diesel for a truck...

because its banned here , you can rego a diesel in some prefectures but Tokyo ,,yeah right and because the stupid fks have got their heads so far up there own arses ( trust me I know ) its petrol all the way

I can only speak of Honda

I actually was working with one young lady last year from the power product division and asked her the same question; Why ,if India finds petrol expensive ,are you not producing diesel generators . ? Ans: Because they are noisy and smelly and there is no market ........ headup arse syndrome.

look up gundamn then look at his motorcycle rocket bike or what ever its called, then look at the current designs ,,,,those kids who grew up on that manga sht are now the managers ,,,,,

there is no chance of a decent product until they pass on

IMHO

Stephen

**dangerous** · 19th August 2013, 05:47

Originally Posted by BMWST?

If you want efficiency you gotta go turbo common rail

now ya see... Im in the market after loosing my trusty of 10yrs 2.7TD navara, went farking well with a biger pipe and open air filter and sounded awesome.

Now Im looking at the 3L DT Navara cos they are the last of the "decent diesels" after them comes the common rail.

common rail nissan 2.5 and haul serious arse with econmy... but come on they must be seriously stressed, how long will they last?
then theres the inj cost, we have all heard the horror storys of what it cost to rebuild a common rails? why so dear they are just injectors and fuel lines...

EG a guy I was working with paid 5.5k for a 3L Wizzard, then cos a idiot light came on it cost him $6000 to rebuild the injectors???