Drug testing?

[nodrog:Me]

Are you up to it?

not really, it all looks abit hard. I hope they still have pictures of the burgers on the till.

[Drew]

Come on Drew, everyone knows drugs are illegal and I'm clearly not suggesting anyone has the right to get shit-faced prior to going racing. I simply disagree with the implementation of substandard testing methods in regards to Cannabis. How would the non-smoking alcohol users like it if they were in a similar situation and the test methods being used only showed a trace or a presence of alcohol but couldn't determine impairment?

The point of testing for drugs in any sport should be restricted to reducing danger & eliminating unfair competition. In the case of Cannabis where the presence of THC can remain in the human body weeks after any effects have gone completely, it becomes no longer about reducing danger or eliminating unfair competition but about testing for lifestyle choice. What's next? Testing for Jews & Homos? You'll be fucked then.

The legal limit for alcohol while driving is 0.08 or some such. (I might have the decimal in the wrong place). You get sent home from the track however, at one eight of that if what I've read is correct.

Ya know, kinda trace like.

"Eliminating unfair competition"? You are retarded eh? Like, you can legitimately run in the special olympics?

It's about safety in most cases, not performance ya moron. I have yet to find any drug that would help my lap times...And I've tried a lot!

[Katman]

It's about safety in most cases, not performance ya moron. I have yet to find any drug that would help my lap times...And I've tried a lot!

You should try reading a little more carefully Drew.

[Madness]

The legal limit for alcohol while driving is 0.08 or some such. (I might have the decimal in the wrong place). You get sent home from the track however, at one eight of that if what I've read is correct.

Ya know, kinda trace like.

Sure, but that trace of alcohol could not be the result of alcohol consumption some 5-6 weeks prior, could it Einstein?

"Eliminating unfair competition"? You are retarded eh? Like, you can legitimately run in the special olympics?

It's about safety in most cases, not performance ya moron. I have yet to find any drug that would help my lap times...And I've tried a lot!

Come on Drew, think a little. I typed "Drug testing in any sport" - I'm not for a moment suggesting that Cannabis could be used as a performance enhancing substance in motorcycle racing (or any other sport that comes to mind, other than pie-eating).

You really are like a 12-year old sometimes.

[SMOKEU]

nope.

Then why did you agree to a drug test in the first place? Unless there's some legal bullshit reason for it, I would just say "no" to drug testing right from the start as it has nothing to do with your employer. Once in a job interview I got asked if I would take a drug test, to which I promptly said "no", and when questioned as to why, I simply stated that my personal and professional life are separate and I shouldn't be subjected to any such testing. I got the job, and nothing was ever mentioned about it again.

It's about safety in most cases, not performance ya moron. I have yet to find any drug that would help my lap times...And I've tried a lot!

If anything, being under the influence of cannabis during a race will likely be detrimental to the performance of the rider, and if the purpose of racing is to win, then I doubt any serious racer would race high if they know it's probably going to make them slower.

[Katman]

If anything, being under the influence of cannabis during a race will likely be detrimental to the performance of the rider.....

There has been a notable exception to that rule in recent years though.

[Drew]

Sure, but that trace of alcohol could not be the result of alcohol consumption some 5-6 weeks prior, could it Einstein?

So? The answer is to stop smoking weed at least five weeks before a race, or face the possibility of being sent home.

It's not that difficult to grasp. It all circles back to the same thing. If a test for impairment is not available, then users and not the organisers are responsible for not showing traces.

Come on Drew, think a little. I typed "Drug testing in any sport" - I'm not for a moment suggesting that Cannabis could be used as a performance enhancing substance in motorcycle racing (or any other sport that comes to mind, other than pie-eating).

I know you're not suggesting weed would help a racer. But since there isn't any point to bringing that up at all, I figured I would answer it relative to this topic.

You really are like a 12-year old sometimes.

YOU ARE.

[Drew]

There has been a notable exception to that rule in recent years though.

An interesting statement. Please elaborate for those of us not in the know.

[Madness]

So? The answer is to stop smoking weed at least five weeks before a race, or face the possibility of being sent home.

It's not that difficult to grasp. It all circles back to the same thing. If a test for impairment is not available, then users and not the organisers are responsible for not showing traces.

But such tests, although not conclusive and far from perfect, are available apparently but are probably not going to be used. You should read better.

This is causing drama on fb. SNZ is now drug testing by taking urine samples. People are complaining because they can't get stoned the week before a race meeting.

Do you think it's fair to drug test people who are operating bikes which are capable of killing and harming people?

Side note, mouth swabs have been offered as an alternative to check if any drugs have been taken recently, but will a swab show drugs taken through injection, snorting or up the bum? And should SNZ give a shit if the drugs were taken recently or is any indication of drugs enough to justify a ban?

I know you're not suggesting weed would help a racer. But since there isn't any point to bringing that up at all, I figured I would answer it relative to this topic.

There is a point in bringing this up, it's just that you're too simple to see it, obviously.

[Drew]

But such tests, although not conclusive, are probably not going to be used. You should read better.

I don't need to read any better. You haven't changed anything except sentence structure in the whole thread. Read one, read 'em all.

There is a point in bringing this up, it's just that you're too simple to see it, obviously.

Oh yeah, make out there's a hidden meaning in the dribble you type and blame it on someone else just not getting it.

You're smarter...but only by half ball bag. Jog on.

[Madness]

I don't need to read any better. You haven't changed anything except sentence structure in the whole thread. Read one, read 'em all.

Always remember to read the OP Drew, simple stuff really. Nothing hidden in my posts at all. The only thing hidden in this thread is you're intellect.

[Drew]

Always remember to read the OP Drew, simple stuff really.

That's not the context, that our back and fourth is based on.

I admit to having misread the OP and thought this was about real racing, but I don't see a flaw in my argument yet.

[Madness]

I admit to having misread the OP and thought this was about real racing, but I don't see a flaw in my argument yet.

Keep looking.

That's not the context, that our back and fourth is based on.

Yes it is. You were just going off half-cocked like a 12-year old doing a Rambo impersonation without having understood the discussion topic properly.

[scrivy]

Testing for Jews & Homos? You'll be fucked then.

Drews a Jew too????

[Drew]

Keep looking.

That's a bit vague chief...But I think that's kind of the purpose of the statement.

Drugs taken show up in a competitors system. Competitor goes home. End of.

"Waaaaaaaahhhhhhh, I took the drugs ages ago"!

"Prove it fucktard".

"Waaaaaaaahhhhhhh, I can't prove it because other people wont pay for the kind of testing that would make it possible".

Ya get it yet 'blaze'?