Banned? Oh dear, what a shame

[Akzle]

These assholes are NOT New Zealand citizens, and are not even in the country. They have no guarantee of free movement or association in this country.

Trying to compare the NZ government to the Reich on the basis of this decision is beyond idiotic.

quite right. Theyre probably black so should be in prison.

[Tazz]

Not really sure about the twitterz thing but unless you were actually there who knows what happened with that riot thing. Has no one learnt NOT to trust the media yet? Who is to say the Police didn't go in and start whacking the crap out of people to get them to move on?

Oh wait, it is America, the cops are pretty relaxed there aye

Not defending them (they seem like tards IMO, but I doubt they'd think much of me either so who cares), however it does all seem a bit over the top.
And as for controlling immigration...where are we all from again? I'm pretty certain we don't 'own' NZ and haven't been here for thousands of years

[SMOKEU]

How is this any different from typical nigga gangsta rap produced over the past 25 years or so? People should just get over themselves. It's only music after all. There's a lot of violence on TV and movies, so what makes this so much worse?

[Tazz]

How is this any different from typical nigga gangsta rap produced over the past 25 years or so? People should just get over themselves. It's only music after all. There's a lot of violence on TV and movies, so what makes this so much worse?

It's not the music, it is the riot and the twitterz thing.

[SMOKEU]

It's not the music, it is the riot and the twitterz thing.

Music doesn't make people behave badly. If they do, then we have insufficient legal ways of dealing with it.

[unstuck]

Dave Dobbyn started a riot, we should have banned that weasly little prick too.

[SPman]

Personally, I think they're shit, but, there's a principle at stake here
I/S has a good take on it...

Yesterday the Auckland Council started wringing its hands over misogynist rap group Odd Future's planned concert this weekend. Today, the government has responded by banning them from New Zealand. Their reason?

"The Immigration Act 2009 provides that entry permission may not be granted where there is reason to believe there is, or is likely to be, a threat or risk to public order or the public interest.

"Odd Future has been deemed to be a potential threat to public order and the public interest for several reasons, including incidents at past performances in which they have incited violence. In one instance, a police officer was hospitalised following a riot incited by Odd Future,'' the statement read.

That riot? Was caused by cops when they broken up a signing when too many fans showed up. And the injury was a cop falling over and hurting his back. From the sound of them, I wouldn't like Odd Future at all - but as a "threat to public order" goes, that's exceptionally weak, and certainly no grounds to violate their freedom of expression, or that of their New Zealand fans. This ban is simply Muldoonist bullshit.

(I'd suggest Odd Future seek to have the ban judicially reviewed for illegality, but it would take too long, the harm will already have been done, and those who made the decision will not go to jail for BORA violation. Which is one way governments get away with unlawful actions: because they effectively have impunity from any consequences)

As for how to deal with groups like Odd Future, I've said it before and I'll say it again: the answer to speech you don't like is more speech, not less.

[scumdog]

Then maybe somebody should dress up like OF and sing "all you motherfuckin wannabe gangsta Bantu's should jump in front of a train"

I'd pay to see that concert.

Loikwoise...

[scumdog]

[QUOTE=Akzle;1130678236]i'm glad there are governmentjewfaggots to censor free speech and impede certain individuals' travel (coming or going(them syria supporters))


WHofukkincares.....

[FJRider]

As a staunch defender of free speech I suppose I should protest ...

I must be getting old ... and I can hear the younger generation screaming about free speech ... I would say to them "Oh dear ... what a shame ..."

Free speech with the intent to state your own beliefs (in the vain hope others will agree) is one thing .... but if it is with intent to insult/incite/berate/annoy any another person/group ... it is ilegal ...

[Akzle]

Free speech with the intent to state your own beliefs (in the vain hope others will agree) is one thing .... but if it is with intent to insult/incite/berate/annoy any another person/group ... it is ilegal ...

no the fuck it isnt you cracker ass jewfag.

[FJRider]

no the fuck it isnt you cracker ass jewfag.

As usual ... you are wrong ...

Under your rules of free speech ...

Everybody that I am aware of ... that uses the username of Akzle is a pox ridden, anti-social, cock sucking, homosexual, paracitical , hypocritical, ass-wipe ... (did I miss anything important out .. ??)


I wont mention you ride a suzuki ... as (apparently) it's not frowned on anymore ... (suzuki riders are still a little suspect anyway)

[ellipsis]

. We shouldn't let fuckwits like this through the door, ever.

...fuckwits like this, arrive here most days, with a permit to stay...some may even post on here...seems like it...

[Tazz]

Music doesn't make people behave badly. If they do, then we have insufficient legal ways of dealing with it.

Eh? No le entendi? Never said it did au!
If you believe the article they jumped on the roof and told their fans to attack the cops or some crap? Or maybe you have more info (or I missed something) and it was actually a song that got them started?
There is a difference between some tard listening to a song (Madmess listening to RATM, f the police and then trying to make sexual advances on Scumdog for example) and someone with a microphone telling a crowd (full of tards, allegedly) to attack the police.

At the end of the day it is still all a bit BS whether you think they are morons yourself or not.

[ellipsis]

...Jerry Lee Lewis is the Devil...