Stupid World

**mashman** · 3rd March 2014, 19:13

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

“You just don’t invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert your interests,” - America says to Russia

Justification is not required as it is the will of the people they represent. Those who vote are guilty of murder.

**Akzle** · 3rd March 2014, 19:58

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

“You just don’t invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert your interests,” - America says to Russia

i fuken heard something (that) or similar on the radio today and laughed my pants off.
Fuken emergency jewnited nations meetings and shit.
Russia should stage a land based occupation of usa. That would be epic lulz.

**Scuba_Steve** · 3rd March 2014, 20:06

Originally Posted by Akzle

Russia should stage a land based occupation of usa. That would be epic lulz.

I'd fuckin

if Russia just up & said; you know what 'Merica, "boom!" headshot!

**Brian d marge** · 4th March 2014, 00:54

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

“You just don’t invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert your interests,” - America says to Russia

you do if there is a huge pipeline running though it

ya nuke the fk outa it, Boom..... eat lead small backward country !

Stephen

Snip:
The Russia–Ukraine gas disputes refer to a number of disputes between Ukrainian oil and gas company Naftohaz Ukrainy and Russian gas supplier Gazprom over natural gas supplies, prices, and debts. These disputes have grown beyond simple business disputes into transnational political issues—involving political leaders from several countries—that threaten natural gas supplies in numerous European countries dependent on natural gas imports from Russian suppliers, which are transported through Ukraine. Russia provides approximately a quarter of the natural gas consumed in the European Union; approximately 80% of those exports travel through pipelines across Ukrainian soil prior to arriving in the EU.[1

**Brian d marge** · 4th March 2014, 01:09

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

I'd fuckin

if Russia just up & said; you know what 'Merica, "boom!" headshot!

They have
Obama returned early from a g20 meeting in Russia , where Russia told them quite clearly we will carry on in syria and go fk ya-self America.

Snip washington post :
Putin said that he believed a unilateral strike would be a violation of international law. He argued that the use of force against a sovereign nation is allowed only as a matter of self-defense, and that Syria has not attacked the United States.
Putin also confirmed that Russia’s support for the Assad regime would continue.
“Will we help Syria? Yes, we will,” he said. “We are doing it right now. We are supplying arms. We are providing economic assistance.” He said Russia wants to expand its humanitarian assistance to Syria.

Also china , Russia are moving away from the dollar and every one and their horse is just waiting for the dollar to collapse as the reserve currency. How this affects NZ I dont know .

Russia may have waited a few years but its boxing smart !

Stephen

**blue rider** · 4th March 2014, 20:25

fukushima, the gifts that keeps on giving?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/...out-fukushima/

**Brian d marge** · 5th March 2014, 03:02

Originally Posted by blue rider

fukushima, the gifts that keeps on giving?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/...out-fukushima/

Im fked then

meanwhile in Rome

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97F02T20130816

the chinks have been buying gold , and the jermans are pissedm, cause the stuff they got had tungsten in it

Hahahahaaa

tits up I reckon !!

Stephen

**Akzle** · 5th March 2014, 03:41

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

Im fked then

meanwhile in Rome

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97F02T20130816

the chinks have been buying gold , and the jermans are pissedm, cause the stuff they got had tungsten in it

Hahahahaaa

tits up I reckon !!

Stephen

China cannot dump U.S. debt,
which could spook markets
and upset the U.S.
government,

**husaberg** · 5th March 2014, 07:15

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

you do if there is a huge pipeline running though it

ya nuke the fk outa it, Boom..... eat lead small backward country !

Stephen

Snip:
The Russia–Ukraine gas disputes refer to a number of disputes between Ukrainian oil and gas company Naftohaz Ukrainy and Russian gas supplier Gazprom over natural gas supplies, prices, and debts. These disputes have grown beyond simple business disputes into transnational political issues—involving political leaders from several countries—that threaten natural gas supplies in numerous European countries dependent on natural gas imports from Russian suppliers, which are transported through Ukraine. Russia provides approximately a quarter of the natural gas consumed in the European Union; approximately 80% of those exports travel through pipelines across Ukrainian soil prior to arriving in the EU.[1

Is it time to envoke the godwins law pardox?
Thought the irony of this one was superb.

**mashman** · 5th March 2014, 08:03

Fight. Fight! Fight?

"Moscow (AFP) - Russia could reduce to zero its economic dependency on the United States if Washington agreed sanctions against Moscow over Ukraine, a Kremlin aide said on Tuesday, warning that the American financial system faced a "crash" if this happened.

"We would find a way not just to reduce our dependency on the United States to zero but to emerge from those sanctions with great benefits for ourselves," said Kremlin economic aide Sergei Glazyev.

He told the RIA Novosti news agency Russia could stop using dollars for international transactions and create its own payment system using its "wonderful trade and economic relations with our partners in the East and South."

Russian firms and banks would also not return loans from American financial institutions, he said.

"An attempt to announce sanctions would end in a crash for the financial system of the United States, which would cause the end of the domination of the United States in the global financial system," he added.

He said that economic sanctions imposed by the European Union would be a "catastrophe" for Europe, saying that Russia could halt gas supplies "which would be beneficial for the Americans" and give the Russian economy a useful "impulse".

Glazyev has long been seen as among the most hawkish of the advisors to President Vladimir Putin but many observers have seen his hand in the apparent radicalisation of policy on Ukraine since the overthrow of president Viktor Yanukovych.

Economists have long mocked his apocalyptic and confrontational vision of global economics but also expressed concern that he appears to have grown in authority in recent months.

A high ranking Kremlin source told RIA Novosti that Glazyev was speaking in the capacity of an "academic" and his personal opinion did not reflect the official Kremlin policy.

Glazyev descrived the new Ukrainian authorities as "illegitimate and Russophobic", saying some members of the government were on lists of "terrorist organisations, they are criminals".

"If the authorities remain criminal then I think the people of Ukraine will get rid of them soon," he added."

**blue rider** · 5th March 2014, 09:28

Originally Posted by mashman

Fight. Fight! Fight?

"Moscow (AFP) - Russia could reduce to zero its economic dependency on the United States if Washington agreed sanctions against Moscow over Ukraine, a Kremlin aide said on Tuesday, warning that the American financial system faced a "crash" if this happened. ......................

One does not win against Russia. First, it was tried before, and failed miserably. The bones of those who died like dogs in ditches are still precisely were they fell.

Second, Russia could very well live without the US, they have done so before. Europe on the other hand, is a big importer of Russian Gas....via the Ukraine. A couple of years ago, the Russians stopped the flow of natural gas for a while. Prices went up soaring....what else is new.

AS for Russia deciding not to pay any debts.....who would stop them?

Third the US telling others not to start wars on trumped up charges....priceless.

The Russians will do as the Russians do, Ukraine was always just so liberated from Russia. The Ukrainian Tartars would like to come back home from Exile in Uzbekisan (send there - those that survived under Stalin). The Ukrainian Russians would like to get the privileges back they had under Russian Occupation etc etc etc. And the rest of the Ukraine, especially the young ones would not mind joining the EU, if only to travel freely amongst the member states.

Luckily, Europe is heading into Summer. While there is a demand for natural gas, it is not quite as high as it would be were Father Frost standing in front of the door.

We are living in interesting times.

http://crookedtimber.org/2014/03/03/...-consequences/

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...n-9162734.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemc...-for-a-tumble/

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26418664

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/02/kerr...ed_up_pretext/

and a bit of history in Revolutions that were helped by the US, but never quite enough to actually succeed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungari...lution_of_1956
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring
and then maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_uprising_in_Karbala

**Brian d marge** · 5th March 2014, 13:19

How much exposure NZ has to all of this I don’t know

at a quick glance , it looks like NZ is in bed with both.

Not that it matters as on the grand scale NZ is not a game changer !

I would hate to live in America now

( and Im covering my backside in Japan just in case )

Stephen

Working in and riding a Honda since ages ago