SOunds like a bad run for that rear, I recon I would have had 30k out of the rear had it not been run flat so often. The tread was wearing really funny and was pumping them up before each trip there for a bit so they got a bit chewed out (which in the end I was doing on purpose so I could replace the useless things. Loving the new Conti Milestone that I replaced it with far more stable from the get go and a lot better in the wet that the Shinko ever was.
Never had any problems in the wet myself...
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Hi Morcs did you ever try Shinko's on your 636. I've been offered some for mine (05) at $500 fitted. I'm told by the dealer they're great value and excellent in the wet.
Not sure but struggling to find good tyres in Christchurch. Any help would be gratefully received.
Pete
All depends on what type of Shinkos. 006 is a lot different to the 003 and what not.
I think the salesman is taking you for a ride regarding wet performance. I had a 006 rear and 005 front on the motard at the track in pouring rain and couldn't believe how shit they were compared to sticky supersport dry oriented bridgestone tyres that have barely any tread at all. One would think the heavily grooved 006 and 005's would be good on rain but the rubber compound is really a lot more relevant for performance, wet or dry. It was just constantly being in state of slide with both the front and rear, enough that onlookers thought there was something wrong with the tyres. Was brilliant for slide control though... one thing I along with other users have acknowledged is that you really can feel them slide well... it's very predictable, enough to let you power slide the rear wheel out of corners with confidence. Having said all this though, the Shinkos I used were probably extremely old and that most likely has a lot to do with the large difference in wet grip.
Granted with a heavily treaded tyre the risk of aquaplaning diminishes significantly but you are going to have to hit some serious speed in decent standing water to ever test that!
...Full throttle till you see god, then brake.
I think I'll pay the extra and get some reliable rubber. Dunlop roadsmarts seem like a good investment for a sporty road tyre. Anyone have any experience with them?
Pete
I have a Shinko Apex on the back of the Bandit now - for what it's worth it seems like a pretty good tyre... but I am only on a 250 so not exactly doing a lot of high speed on it. It certainly handles better than the old rear that was on the bike when I bought it.
Had a chat with Andrew at TSS over wear rate, load etc on the MT and tyre options. Have been happy with the grip of the BT023gt, but since 'stage 2ing' the bike, I think it is wearing tyres faster... 'Full power' below 3k in first 3 gears now, plus overall, around 6-8% increase in HP and torque. To get the MT-01 through Euro emission regs, it ran lean, and closed the Exup below 3k in first 3 gears (makes it quiet enough to pass) but reduced low rev power by around 30% at the same time.
Issue.. weight 265kg wet, 110kg rider, low revving long stroke V twin (110kph @ 2500rpm), maybe 120-ft lbs of torque.. power pulses and weight simply scrub tyres away.
Decided to give the Shinko Verge 016 2X (dual compound) a try, this has a very stiff carcase, (which when I was riding the old FJ1200, I found was preferable to the modern 'elastic' sports/sport tour tyre carcases on a big heavy bike of that type). the Shinko is MUCH stiffer than the 023, this should reduce tyre distortion. I'm aware they need a lot more warming up than other tyres, but then I think thats comparative to the style of riding, an MT is certainly not a highly flickable, scrape your knee, footpeg, etc etc bike.. more akin to an FJR/ST1300/BMW LT for handling characteristics.
Generally, my riding style is 'fast touring' which suits the bike design, but dont have much chicken strip left on the BT023's, so the Verge will be 'ridden'. On leaving the shop the bike felt very different, the 023 was knackered, but the Shinko felt like it was 'perched' and as I leaned into the first slow corner at Ewan bridge (heading towards the city) it felt almost like it wanted to 'tip in'... May be due to much less 'tyre flex'... Going over the Taka's for a coffee later, so will scrub it in, and possibly get to see it's wet weather handling......
http://www.shinkotireusa.com/tire/016-verge-2x
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I have Shinko's on my bike. Personally put on nearly 10,000 km's on them wet and dry and I've never had a problem, seem to grip fine although I'm more cautious in the wet. Will find out what exact model. Then again I ride a small bike (250) And I commute and ride for fun rather than serious track action. I find them good for the riding I do.
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