South Auckland Street Skills

[nzspokes]

all good ideas - before the ride and discussion after
gunna practice some slow turns over weekend - need it

Laps of the lounge?

[Tigadee]

gunna practice some slow turns over weekend - need it

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I also like this guy:

Laps of the lounge?

LOL

[Tigadee]

Even though it's with a big bike, the principles still remain the same:

[aws]

Ive had one for a couple of years and am not a fan. They fog instantly and the optics are awful. But thats on my cheap LS2 lid. I hear Shoei has better optics but it will still fog when you need it. I get by with a strip of tape at the top of my visor and another bit at the bottom. Works well.

I'm on my third flip face helmet with integrated sun-visor and I wouldn't even consider a helmet without one. LS2 fogged with no pinlock, but was really noisy, Nolan no fogging, quieter, but still noisy. Shuberth C3 is so quiet in comparison. Way quieter than the Shoei Neotec I test rode. The sun-visor does fog a little, but only when stationary and I just open the main visor. When it's raining, chances are you don't need the sun-visor anyway. It's mainly caused by the excellent wind seal around the neck which stops warm breath from escaping - just the price of having some quiet.

Never had a problem with the optics on any of them, not in comparison with the double vision you get thru any pinlock at night. Still, seeing two sets of all the lights ahead of you is much better than seeing nothing at all thru a foggy visor. So as well as a sun-visor, a pinlock is definitely on my must-have list.

What I have discovered after about a year with the Shuberth (and I'm fastidious about keeping my visors clean) was that you do need to remove the pinlock periodically and clean both sides of both visor and pinlock. Somehow they do get dirty in between and need a little periodic TLC. And if your pinlock itself is in contact with the visor like the Nolan (i.e. doesn't have a little silicone bead around the edge) then definitely take it out and dry it off every time it gets wet. Otherwise the pinlock material sticks and leaves little beads of material on the inside of your visor that WON'T come off and look much like really bad scratches after a while. Ask Sis about that!

Personally I just use water and a tissue to clean my visor, but I believe that Pledge is quite good too. I just prefer not to put anything on my visor where I'm not sure of the ingredients and what effect they might have on the anti-scratch and anti-fog coatings applied by the manufacturer.

[nzspokes]

Didnt know that about pinlocks but Ive only had the LS2 and now the HJC lids with pinlock. Both the pinlock doesnt touch the visor. LS2 will be up for replacement soon as its 2 years old and ive done 60,000ks with it. Not sure yet what I will get to replace it as the HJC is for weekend rides and track days.

[eldog]

aws - Schubeth C3 with pinlock - nice - going to start to wear earplugs as well, wearing snood to keep wind noise from neck down
and balaclava to keep my oily hair from the inside of the helmet - keep it clean

[Tigadee]

aws - Schubeth C3 with pinlock - nice

Heck yeah, for $600 it'd better be!!

- going to start to wear earplugs as well

Smart move... I started getting a constant ringing sound in my right ear after the first 6 months of riding. My flip-face helmet then was noisy...

Once I started wearing ear plugs, the deterioration stopped, but the contant ringing will never go away , so keep your hearing - wear ear plugs!

[bawked]

Looking forward to some low speed practice next week, think my riding at speed has improved a lot lately.

Was following a couple litre bikes back up the coro loop tonight and one of the stood his bike up and almost went off-roading... pretty crazy really, one screw up and it can be all over!

[nzspokes]

Righto, after the gravel left on the roads has brought the odd rider down the below is going round Facebook. These are the people to ring.

[aws]

Heck yeah, for $600 it'd better be!!

When I bought the Nolan about 4 years back, the guy at Cycletreads tried to get me to test ride the Schuberth. It was around $1,300 at the time and I kicked myself afterward that I didn't at least try it - but I certainly wasn't planning to spend those kind of $$. Fortunately, they've halved in price since then. For similar $$ I'd rate it as a better helmet than both the Nolan and the Shoei. And really light too.

[eldog]

loose gravel - I could keep a roading crew busy for most of the year doing fix ups.

there are so many badly done chip seal jobs lately its not funny.

check out any rural road around, cnr Fitzgeralds RD and Drury Hill road and the end of Waihoehoe Road spring to mind. I could go on and on.

Some of the jobs in Takanini recently had one sweep, a lot of loose metal was thrown onto the verge/grass (its great to mow) and there is still a lot left loose.

Some jobs are just small patches across corners - 1-1.5 metres wide a few metres long, even on roads that were recently just been redone with hot mix.

It is a pet hate of mind how the roading jobs are done (some of the motorway work is very nice now)

Maybe ACC could investigate some of the road conditions and place blame for crashes etc partly on the road shape, condition, lighting etc than just on riders

Most jobs could be fixed with a bobcat with an enclosed broom and bucket to sweep up excess or back onto properties, just a thought.

It makes it more difficult for us learners to get the confidence to ride due to be slippery nature of gravel on our roads.

I know its off topic-but it makes a good talking point for all
back to topic
Thats why I like being part os SASS so we get to see hazards (NZSPOKES makes an EXCELLENT job pointing out hazards as we come upto them ) I have learnt a lot of what to look for from NZSPOKES in ths regard and thats what SASS is all about i guess
otherwise we would just become part of the accident statistics - learner out of control

[eldog]

When I bought the Nolan about 4 years back, the guy at Cycletreads tried to get me to test ride the Schuberth. It was around $1,300 at the time and I kicked myself afterward that I didn't at least try it - but I certainly wasn't planning to spend those kind of $$. Fortunately, they've halved in price since then. For similar $$ I'd rate it as a better helmet than both the Nolan and the Shoei. And really light too.

My head didnt fit most of the ones I tried, only Shoei and Schubeth were close, the S2 was perfect but I chose the C3 - learner, ease of getting on and off, integrated sun visor, would recommend visor for any one, its so handly for the SASS rides - sunny then dark during our rides. Didnt fit the pinlock at first, I didnt know anything about what happens when riding - fog, heavy breathing, rain, mist, insects, diesel, etc. Fitted the pin lock most of problems went away(dont have any problems with double vision with pinlock fitted, maybe after pub visit). if the visor mists up open front visor slightly, C3 does have a constant flow of air around the chin - which takes some getting use to but nice on the hot days. I always leave it with the visor up and the sun visor down, if the sunvisor gets wet just leave it down, it will be ok in a day or two - dont rub it. Use a moist microcloth and place over the main visor and leave overnight to soak off bugs etc.

The schubeth sun visor doesnt have 2 positions like some models, you can place it anywhere and I found that it doesnt come down too close to my nose/face etc.
$ - I know how much my head costs and its nice to be comfortable on these SASS rides

[nzspokes]

Next Sass is the last one you will need the sun visor from memory. Then its headlights.....

[bawked]

I think it's a good idea to get used to gravel, I've been down quite a few gravel roads on my bike... done a bit of mountain biking in the past so I don't know if that helps.

But basically gravel on the roads doesn't matter, just be smoother on the controls.... it's the same as wet roads. We can complain all we want, but it's a common hazard and so you've got to get used to it. If you can ride down a metal road, then a little gravel dusting is nothing.

[eldog]

Next Sass is the last one you will need the sun visor from memory. Then its headlights.....

scorpio lights arent too bad, use the sunvisor to dim FZR250's lights when he gets close on an uphill section at the top, you are coming this week FZR?