Comfortable protective pants?

[ital916]

I have Revit mesh pants for commuting, have some cheap leather pants for spirited rides. Bought new revit leather pants today.

Dress for the slide not for the ride.

Why, if that was you in Motomail today with your partner, looking at the back protectors, was a pleasure to meet you and your other half and to be able to find you some leather pants that fit the bill! If not, then disregard this message

[nzspokes]

Why, if that was you in Motomail today with your partner, looking at the back protectors, was a pleasure to meet you and your other half and to be able to find you some leather pants that fit the bill! If not, then disregard this message

It was and we will be back for the back protector.

[yevjenko]

Seriously look at my post for the Diamond Gusset Jeans. I have been riding for close to 40 years

May be a silly question, but have you crashed in then?

sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)

[rebyl]

[QUOTE=yevjenko;1130706502]May be a silly question, but have you crashed in then?

Yep, 2012 in Utah, pants stood up just fine no road rash on legs or bum, but did have 47 stitches in head, 5 broken bones in left shoulder and two snapped tendons in left shoulder. Her fault when she pulled across road in a National Park without looking

[yevjenko]

Ouch! Hope you've healed ok after that

sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)

[rebyl]

[QUOTE=yevjenko;1130706830]Ouch! Hope you've healed ok after that

Yep, mostly OK, shoulder will never be 100 per cent but maybe the pay-out from the Litigation will ease the pain....LOL. head wound left a scar but then again I was never a beauty queen.....I often get people saying crap like...man I bet you don't ride those things anymore....Why ?, shit sometimes happens and you still cannot beat the feel of a good days ride.
Cheers

[tigertim20]

[QUOTE=rebyl;1130706520]

May be a silly question, but have you crashed in then?

my fault for not being aware of other traffic and their possible intentions - when she pulled across road in a National Park without looking

fixed for ya,

[GrayWolf]

I have several pairs of different pants, I ride year round so have summer/winter gear.

Kevlar lined jeans.. IMO Draggin are overpriced, leave them to the 'Hardly riders' who only want the 'named brand'.

I tend to sweat easily in Cordura, so try to avoid wearing it in summer.

CNell, I have to say their ones are pretty good, thick denim, good coverage of Kevlar, knee/hip armour, if anything the hip armour is too small in size.
Rhino pants, are fairly good, they do Cargo pants and jeans, better hip armour than the CNell.
Bruce McGurk jeans and cargo pants I have to say the material thickness is of a very good quality.
There are a few versions that have no padding or armour I wont buy them.

Cordura or ballistic nylon, usually has better armour on knees but often no hip armour, so in some ways the jeans have advantage?? Many Cordura pants are made of 600D material, the higher quality ones are 8/900D or greater.. (finer weave/thread count) better quality material just like bedsheets!
The higher quality cordura is going to perform better in a slide for friction wear than the kevlar jeans denim outer layer, and will likely outlast the kevlar lining which is generally 'thinnish'.

Leather is the proven best friction resistant material period.. but cheap leather is just that CHEAP!! Often not full grained or aniline, may be 'belly leather' etc. Also thickness has to be considered, most high quality leather pants jackets are 2mm thick, most 'budget price' are 1.2-1.4mm thick. A good leather pant with decent stitching as opposed to the often single stitch or exposed stitching of cheaper items, along with armour protection is going to be the best overall. I find leather less sweaty than Cordura, but more so than the kevlar lined jeans.

Its been said already, buy the BEST you can afford!

[Erelyes]

Also thickness has to be considered, most high quality leather pants jackets are 2mm thick, most 'budget price' are 1.2-1.4mm thick.

I have never seen a 2mm thick leather jacket or pant for sale anywhere.

I do see jackets/pants that are 1.2-1.4 thick, but double layer in key areas.

Oh and 'budget price' 1.2-1.4mm thick - really?

[GrayWolf]

I have never seen a 2mm thick leather jacket or pant for sale anywhere.

I do see jackets/pants that are 1.2-1.4 thick, but double layer in key areas.

Oh and 'budget price' 1.2-1.4mm thick - really?

then you need to open Ya eyes.... REALLY

0.5mm - 0.8mm = lightweight leather (shirts)
0.9mm - 1.1mm = midweight leather (trousers - jackets)
1.2mm - 1.6mm = heavyweight leather (Jackets)
1.7mm - 2.0mm = super heavyweight leather (chaps - jackets)


http://www.streetdirectory.com/trave...s_it_mean.html



0.5 – 0.8mm = Lightweight 0.9 – 1.1mm = Middleweight 1.2 – 1.6mm = Heavyweight 1.7 – 2.0mm = Super Heavyweight

http://www.allstateridernews.com/gar...xtile-part-one

I posted info on this months ago in another thread, I cant be arsed doing the research for YOUR lazy arse!!!

[Erelyes]

I posted info on this months ago in another thread, I cant be arsed doing the research for YOUR lazy arse!!!

I post a link showing a $2500USD suit which is 99% the same as what MotoGP riders use (airbag excepted) which uses 1.2-1.4.

You post two opinion pieces both of which prove nothing.

Here is a Qmoto suit, guess what? 1.4mm, with dual layers in key areas.

Don't get shitty just cos you got called out. If you're gonna spout shit, the onus on you is to back it up.

People asking for advice about gear have enough to confuse em without being led on a wild goose chase.

[rebyl]

I find all the views here interesting and we all often have different ones, not wrong, just different. I have now 40 years of riding and started way back just wearing whatever kept you warm, this often meant in the Winter wearing an Army Great Coat backwards with newspaper stuffed down the front to keep you warm.
So the choice today is friggin amazing. I still prefer leather but do have some textile gear but find they still don't feel as comfortable.
I get my gear from Jet Leathers in Hastings, I support him because he is a Kiwi making good gear for Kiwi's, he is not interested in flashy shit, just good leather gear.
Thanks Greywolf for the link to the All State site, looks like a good read there

[GrayWolf]

Don't get shitty just cos you got called out. If you're gonna spout shit, the onus on you is to back it up.

People asking for advice about gear have enough to confuse em without being led on a wild goose chase.

Waahhh wahhh, as I said I cannot be bothered looking up any further, the 'opinion' as you put it is off sites that sell leather gear. Oh and FYI, a jacket I recently sold purely because it isnt useable (large brass buckle on the front) on anything other than a cruiser was 3mm thick leather. But then that was purchased in the UK over 20 yrs ago....

Yes the TA asked opinions, and mine is as valid as yours, like Rebyl, I am a 40yr rider and started when gear was minimal, in the UK, Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter for 9yrs, before learning to drive a car. So I can assure you, I quickly sorted out decent from shyte gear!
Most modern gear is way from 'ideal'. At high speed (1000kph) Velcro, popper fasteners etc are highly suspect for staying closed, the old belt loops, belt buckle fastening on trousers, or bib n brace pants etc are far safer to wear, but not 'fashionable'.. All of my pants are taken to a repair shop and have a belt style fastener added to the front to make sure they dont come open in the event.....
Few jackets today have a Double zip (double breasted), let alone an angled zip with extra leather/cordura underneath it.

Oh and as for your 'double layer in some areas?? Guess what? That makes those areas at the least 2.4mm thick.... Havent seen a 2mm thick jacket huh??
I was working on the assumption that the TA would 'get it' if comparing a straight 1'4mm jacket to one with 'double thickness' in high abrasion areas. But then, you didnt

There was one young man who may still be on here, who around 3 yrs ago on a Wednesday ride, came off his Hyosung250 on the coast road (slid side/belly to the road), he was wearing a one piece, which indeed saved him a lot of 'gravel rash'.... However 2 things, 1) the leather DID wear through in one spot, and 2) the zip DID part at chest height.

So if my 'opinion' is confusing? Then I accept your limited view, mine is purely driven by a strong need to survive with as minimal damage as possible, in the event of.

[GrayWolf]

I find all the views here interesting and we all often have different ones, not wrong, just different. I have now 40 years of riding and started way back just wearing whatever kept you warm, this often meant in the Winter wearing an Army Great Coat backwards with newspaper stuffed down the front to keep you warm.
So the choice today is friggin amazing. I still prefer leather but do have some textile gear but find they still don't feel as comfortable.
I get my gear from Jet Leathers in Hastings, I support him because he is a Kiwi making good gear for Kiwi's, he is not interested in flashy shit, just good leather gear.
Thanks Greywolf for the link to the All State site, looks like a good read there

Did you HAVE to remind me of the 'ARMY GREATCOAT' days....... you BASTARD!!!!

[rebyl]

Did you HAVE to remind me of the 'ARMY GREATCOAT' days....... you BASTARD!!!!

They were great days...I think...LOL. Long Live, Triumph, BSA, Matchless and memories.
Amazing how the young ones now think they have invented riding and rooting.......remember the old no root no ride law....