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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    The rear brake makes up 20%* of your ability to decelerate.

    If I told you that you could accelerate 20% faster by carefully pressing a lever you'd give it a nudge.

    * - You can argue over the percentage, or how much effect it has while the rear wheel is unloaded/in the air all you like.
    but didnt u crash tryin it

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    Quote Originally Posted by macka77 View Post
    but didnt u crash tryin it
    Ah yes, that crash is what forced me to revise my thoughts on rear braking to include the "carefully" disclaimer.

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    The rear brake can be really useful. If you watch guys like Stroudy they're dragging the rear brake through the turn 2-3 transistion at Hampton Downs to keep the bike steady.

    I was making too many mistakes using the rear brake and I was also buggering around with the brake instead of getting my feet sorted for corners so I stopped using it. But I keep thinking I really should learn how to use it properly cos I'm sure it would help out at times. A thumb brake would be a good move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    The rear brake can be really useful. If you watch guys like Stroudy they're dragging the rear brake through the turn 2-3 transistion at Hampton Downs to keep the bike steady.

    I was making too many mistakes using the rear brake and I was also buggering around with the brake instead of getting my feet sorted for corners so I stopped using it. But I keep thinking I really should learn how to use it properly cos I'm sure it would help out at times. A thumb brake would be a good move.





    Thumb break every time man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix View Post
    Thumb break every time man
    I am making one. MTB brake lever with cable pulling master cylinder plunger up. Will try direct pull first. If that don't work then will use a lever at the master with different leverage points. Cheap and choice. If it is reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richban View Post
    I am making one. MTB brake lever with cable pulling master cylinder plunger up. Will try direct pull first. If that don't work then will use a lever at the master with different leverage points. Cheap and choice. If it is reliable.
    just get on and ride the bike , worry about that crap laterbest get the parachute ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by richban View Post
    I am making one. MTB brake lever with cable pulling master cylinder plunger up. Will try direct pull first. If that don't work then will use a lever at the master with different leverage points. Cheap and choice. If it is reliable.
    Start designing a 3:1 ratio lever now. You will not have the hand strength to enable you to actually concentrate on racing after a couple of laps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr bucketracer View Post
    just get on and ride the bike , worry about that crap laterbest get the parachute ready
    She won't chuck me if I go nice and slow like you old man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richban View Post
    I am making one. MTB brake lever with cable pulling master cylinder plunger up. Will try direct pull first. If that don't work then will use a lever at the master with different leverage points. Cheap and choice. If it is reliable.








    just buy one made by proffessionals man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix View Post
    just buy one made by proffessionals man.
    Are you mental? Where is the fun in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richban View Post
    Are you mental? Where is the fun in that.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto-Dynamix View Post
    just buy one made by proffessionals man.
    Quote Originally Posted by richban View Post
    Are you mental? Where is the fun in that.
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    Twostrokes?
    I'm sorry you lost me. What are these demon machines of which you speak?
    The past, present and future is the four stroke engine only......

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    With infinite time or money I'd love to put a thumb brake on the dirtbike as a rudimentary traction control in the slippery stuff.

    Put a bigarse spring or rubber band on the rear lever, makes it easier to regulate, but I have to remember to keep away from the lever after being out on the dirt as I tend to overuse it for a while till I retrain myself.
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    I'm learning to use it...off road.

    Think Stroudy uses it to compress the rear suspension you'll find. When the rear is jacked up, the chain tightening stops the suspension compressing when ya roll the gas on. So you lose compliance and traction.

    But if you load the brake and get the swingarm angle close to flat you can overcome that, and enjoy the advantages of both worlds.

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