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    Quote Originally Posted by MVnut View Post
    In my opinion it has been proven (enough for me anyway) that he was under the influence, therefore committing a crime by piloting the balloon...then when people get killed while committing a crime (felony) it becomes murder
    Did I miss something? The only thing proven is that he had smoked pot at some stage in the past, maybe days ago for all we know... How that leads you to believe he was under the influence during the flight is beyond me

    Murder.... WTF...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    And anyone who considers that opinion to be fair and just IS a fuckwit.
    So what does that make anyone who confuses facts for opinion, fuckwit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MVnut View Post
    ...and if I'm against drugs in general, am I not entitled to that opinion
    Are you against tobacco?

    Are you against alcohol?

    Are you against prescription drugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    Because they are not only taking the risk for themselves and those that my or may not be collateral damage of their choice, they are advertising, enticing and charging money for them to take part in their magical adventure. It's not physics, it's moral responsibility
    Quote Originally Posted by gammaguy View Post
    One big difference......in all those scenarios I am driving.....in the balloon/aircraft I am not,so my life is clearly in the hands of someone else
    Tell that to all the people who have died because of SMIDSYs.

    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    Your point may have more impact if you stayed on topic
    I was pointing out the blatant hypocrisy that most people have when it comes to illegal drugs vs prescription drugs and alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    And anyone who considers that opinion to be fair and just IS a fuckwit.
    No no, it is a fact that cannabis use is a crime. Not an opinion.

    Whether it is fair or not, comes down to opinion. Of which I have offered none regarding legality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    See that's your problem - you see a Cannabis user as a criminal but someone who drinks alcohol is just a person who sometimes drinks alcohol.

    You sound like you've been well and truly brain washed.
    How the fuck do you know what I think about people that take drugs or drink alcohol.....I have only been referring to a habitual drug user who killed a lot of innocent people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay GTI View Post
    Good thing we don't convict people based on someone's opinion formed from reading an article in the newspaper then. Breathe more, your brain is obviously not getting enough oxygen.
    .......so you are presuming that I only get my information via the newspaper??? My brain is getting enough oxygen, don't worry about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by MVnut View Post
    .......so you are presuming that I only get my information via the newspaper??? My brain is getting enough oxygen, don't worry about that
    Hey, if you're privy to some damning evidence against the pilot then share it with us.

    Otherwise you're just a retard who doesn't understand the definition of murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MVnut View Post
    How the fuck do you know what I think about people that take drugs or drink alcohol.....I have only been referring to a habitual drug user who killed a lot of innocent people
    It's fairly obvious what you think when you want to crucify someone for murder going on one fact; he has used drugs in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    No no, it is a fact that cannabis use is a crime. Not an opinion.

    Whether it is fair or not, comes down to opinion. Of which I have offered none regarding legality.
    The fact that the NZ government says that cannabis use is a crime whereas alcohol use is not, IS a crime in itself. Therefore, I don't recognise the NZ government jurisdiction when they say that cannabis is illegal since it causes negligible harm to myself, and none whatsover to other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Who is sympathetic to the pilot? If he was impaired then I would be agreeing with you but just because someone is a habitual user and had THC in the system does not mean they were impaired. If he was then fuck him but I guess it is something we will never know.

    Things go wrong quickly in the air and without power to get out of trouble you can watch it all unfold before you. It is not as if balloons hitting power lines are rare, as evidenced by the link in post #6 to the balloon in the US this week. You obviously have a very strong view of cannabis which is why you have already hung the pilot and taken his family out to be shot.

    If the guy had over 1,000 hours flying and habitually flew while stoned then I would have thought evidence would have already been presented. In fact he would have had his licence taken off him years ago. It hasn't and they haven't so I don't think this is as clear cut as you are making out.
    Being that sensible really doesn't suit you.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Hey, if you're privy to some damning evidence against the pilot then share it with us.

    Otherwise you're just a retard who doesn't understand the definition of murder.
    In commission of a crime causing death, 2nd degree murder, or did you miss something in Law School (maybe a braincell?) go back to sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneblackflag View Post
    It's fairly obvious what you think when you want to crucify someone for murder going on one fact; he has used drugs in the past.
    Only if the 'past' is recent enough to be current.........and yes I am more than happy to crucify someone who I believe causes death while committing a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    The fact that the NZ government says that cannabis use is a crime whereas alcohol use is not, IS a crime in itself. Therefore, I don't recognise the NZ government jurisdiction when they say that cannabis is illegal since it causes negligible harm to myself, and none whatsover to other people.
    Oh yeah, how is that gonna stand up as a defence do ya think?

    Look, this is all very interesting. It's moot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Tell that to all the people who have died because of SMIDSYs.



    I was pointing out the blatant hypocrisy that most people have when it comes to illegal drugs vs prescription drugs and alcohol.
    You change these discussions into alcohol vs drugs every time. It's not about that. You loose all credibility by doing it. Just argue your corner if you believe you're right.

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