When people die on quad bikes, what kills them? Is it head injuries?

[scott411]

Back to the OP question, the main cause of death is crushing injuries, but i dont have all the stats,

the helmet thing is off base IMO, but worksafe and acc push them hard,

I think 15K is way over the top for this breach, but the person had been formally warned, and kept going, Farms are work places, and if you were to carry a young child around on a forklift in a warehouse the outcry would be the same, Worksafe are trying to get farmers to change there ways,

[Katman]

I mean sure there are risky situations (hills or larking about) but when the quad is used normally the chance of an accident is pretty much 0. Been far closer to rolling a tractor than I have ever been to flipping a farm quad.

It's not unusual for things like ball joints to break on poorly maintained farm bikes (yes, there's plenty of those out there) - even when used in a normal manner.

Have one of those let go on a hill and the quad won't stop till it gets to the bottom.

[Shaun Harris]

And another brand of Quad bikes to come on our market soon CFMOTO

[willytheekid]

C'mon Willy, you're better than that. It isn't the reason our regos are so high, nobody said the dude had been drinking, and the age limit applies to riders not passengers.

Nah...Im not! lol (just paid a yrs worth of rego mate...Im still bleeding!)

Unfortunately...it is one of the reasons rego is so high mate.
ACC used the combined stats to raise the cost of cover for motocyclists.

As for kids on Quads...yup, dead right, they are not allowed to "ride" them...but MOST farm quads are single seaters...which are NOT allowed passengers.

As for the guy in the article...I think he got unfairly made a scape goat...15k?...bit too harsh! (And I never said he was drinking...but alot of these accidents do involve alcohol)

As i said...its the system thats broken, not the over charged users!

...still bleeding tho, so cut me some slack

[scott411]

And another brand of Quad bikes to come on our market soon CFMOTO

they have been out here for a number of years, but without a heap of success, the new importer will try to change that, they do better in aussie

[HenryDorsetCase]

Back to the OP question, the main cause of death is crushing injuries, but i dont have all the stats,

the helmet thing is off base IMO, but worksafe and acc push them hard,

I think 15K is way over the top for this breach, but the person had been formally warned, and kept going, Farms are work places, and if you were to carry a young child around on a forklift in a warehouse the outcry would be the same, Worksafe are trying to get farmers to change there ways,

Good point. Thanks for your comments.

I believe that the fine for not wearing a helmet on my motorbike ride home this evening, if stopped by a member of HM Constabulary is $50. Yet (IMO, and thinking about the stats you quoted) it is likely 30000 x more dangerous to do that than to drive a quad bike round my farm sans helmet. It seems ..... off to me somehow. The penalty is disproportionate to the mischief, to misquote Lord Denning.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's not unusual for things like ball joints to break on poorly maintained farm bikes (yes, there's plenty of those out there) - even when used in a normal manner.

Have one of those let go on a hill and the quad won't stop till it gets to the bottom.

I talked to a mechanic who worked on them and he HATED them because the cockies just flogged the shit out of them, never cleaned them and never maintained them. He sais that the Honda ones stood the most abuse before dying but were the most expensive (Who would have thought? a Honda the most expensive!!!)

[bogan]

It's not unusual for things like ball joints to break on poorly maintained farm bikes (yes, there's plenty of those out there) - even when used in a normal manner.

Have one of those let go on a hill and the quad won't stop till it gets to the bottom.

I'd consider normal use to include proper servicing. The point is that these sort of laws don't account for personal responsibility. Though of course we might disagree whether that is common enough to not require such laws. I think what we can agree on, is that a 15k fine is unjustifiably expensive. I mean fuck, get one of those heli-cams out rural and you could make 15k per day in just $150 dollar fines (provided it is not duck hunting season).

[Shaun Harris]

Farmers wash there cow shed floor every milking, but the bike gets a wash when it goes to the shop every 6 months or so, they really are ignorent they do not look after there work tools

[scott411]

page 4 of this australian report covers types of injures reported to one hospital over a 7 year preiod, (70 injuries) 20% were head and neck, and a helmet wont help neck,

http://www.healthnetworks.health.wa...._quad_bike.pdf

[bogan]

Nah...Im not! lol (just paid a yrs worth of rego mate...Im still bleeding!)

Unfortunately...it is one of the reasons rego is so high mate.
ACC used the combined stats to raise the cost of cover for motocyclists.

As for kids on Quads...yup, dead right, they are not allowed to "ride" them...but MOST farm quads are single seaters...which are NOT allowed passengers.

As for the guy in the article...I think he got unfairly made a scape goat...15k?...bit too harsh! (And I never said he was drinking...but alot of these accidents do involve alcohol)

As i said...its the system thats broken, not the over charged users!

...still bleeding tho, so cut me some slack

Yeh I distanced myself from the pain by just not paying it...

Maybe, but it is certainly no reason to blame the farmers for that; and its not like a lack of that justification would have reduced the levies they decided to apply anyway; lets be honest.

Is that legislated that single seater quads can't have passengers? and what constitutes a second seat anyway?

I'd disagree there, the quad bike accidents involving alcohol I hear of are people larking about at the beach or whatever, not going about their jobs on the farm.

Yeh I agree on that, won't fix the system by passing the blame around other overcharged users though will we

[Shaun Harris]

they have been out here for a number of years, but without a heap of success, the new importer will try to change that, they do better in aussie

Yea Norwoods did not have a lot of success with them sales wise

[scott411]

Yea Norwoods did not have a lot of success with them sales wise

nor with Yamaha in the shops they had them in, (Pukekohe and Te Awamutu)

[Banditbandit]

Back to the OP question, the main cause of death is crushing injuries, but i dont have all the stats,

the helmet thing is off base IMO, but worksafe and acc push them hard,

I think 15K is way over the top for this breach, but the person had been formally warned, and kept going, Farms are work places, and if you were to carry a young child around on a forklift in a warehouse the outcry would be the same, Worksafe are trying to get farmers to change there ways,

That's like an argument I have in a 1939 British Motorcycle News, arguing against motorcycle helmets on the basis of them only being useful when a crash is actually happening ..

Yes, there are head injuries caused by quad bike accidents - thrown over the back as they flip, or riders get thrown sideways ..

The crush injuries because motorcycles fall over flat ... and stop .. quads, being basically box-like fall over - and keep rolling - so if you tumble off one side, and the quad tips too, then the bloody things will roll over you - especially if you are on a hill.

I rolled mine a few years ago - luckily I got my feet on the seat as it came down on top of me - the only result was badly bruised ribs were the carrier hit me ..

And yes, ACC levies on farm income are fucking huge - I disliked paying it each year .. it was way more than bike ACC levies ..

[HenryDorsetCase]

When I was a kid all the cockies had TF125's. Or RV90's or RV125's or Honda CT's, i.e. 2 wheelers.

Presumably the utility of a quad (i.e. its a mini ute or tractor) plus ease of operaton means they'be been entirely supplanted by these abortions (i.e. quads)?

One of my mates who was a dairy farmer had a two seat side by side with a rollcage quad that was terrifying. a Kawasaki of some sort. Had seat belts but the one time I was in it I wanted sprintcar arm restraints, full race suit, and a HANS device.... and a full five point harness.