Stupid World

[10bikekid]

Major flood != worldwide flood. Like I said, metaphor.

Your understanding of metaphor is perhaps different to most ?

IMHO having to swim in one is getting pretty real

[bogan]

Your understanding of metaphor is perhaps different to most ?

#Realtalk, what scale flood? and when did it happen? get the basics down then figure out what is metaphor and what is literal eh!

[10bikekid]

#Realtalk, what scale flood? and when did it happen? get the basics down then figure out what is metaphor and what is literal eh!

I understand its natural to need to be right and you can have that if makes you feel better, but those links have an enough info to give some answer to your questions without me repeating them

[Brian d marge]

Did noah get help from ecq

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[bogan]

I understand its natural to need to be right and you can have that if makes you feel better, but those links have an enough info to give some answer to your questions without me repeating them

Yeh, I thought so, vagueries are the currency of the unworthy. If they gave an actual answer, you would have no problem quantifying both scale and time; by calling you out on that lack, it saves everyone else the time of reading through such articles themselves...

[mashman]

So it's eroding at the base... that bodes for some interesting imagery if they can see that.

[mashman]

Perhaps refrain from being so judgy until you have then...

I'm human, notto a robotto.

[Ocean1]

So it's eroding at the base... that bodes for some interesting imagery if they can see that.

I read a report years ago, when climate change alarmism was still global warming alarmism that listed the pros and cons of a rise in sea level of a couple of metres over a few centuries.

The pros far outweighed the cons.

[mashman]

I read a report years ago, when climate change alarmism was still global warming alarmism that listed the pros and cons of a rise in sea level of a couple of metres over a few centuries.

The pros far outweighed the cons.

Are we prepared for that sort of rise in tide height? Wonder if a few marninas wouldn't need the odd tweak here and there. Something worth looking into I would have thought, but meh, that'd be pandering to alarmist bullshit, right?

[Ocean1]

Are we prepared for that sort of rise in tide height? Wonder if a few marninas wouldn't need the odd tweak here and there. Something worth looking into I would have thought, but meh, that'd be pandering to alarmist bullshit, right?

You can be alarmed if you like. Fact is the climate's never stopped changing, and every species has simple dealt with it and moved on.

How many centuries do you think a small portion of the most capable species the planet's ever know needs to move 1 Metre?

Well, p'raps you'd better start packing, but everyone else has enough time for a beer or two.

[avgas]

Yeh, it such a one-directional approach, no consulting with the students to see what they thought of courses (post or undergrad), no headhunting of students to match em up to good jobs; that's where the big differences can be made.

Yeah well it gets worse.
They stick their noses in and swing their weight around when you try and show a new way forward or new technology which goes against their 100 year old brains. The rest of the world calls it innovation.
Basically IPENZ acts like they are the IEEE where in fact they are a closer relation to the RSA.

[10bikekid]

it saves everyone else the time of reading through such articles themselves...

Good point, no need to read the actual info, if you say it it must be true and so should we follow

[bogan]

Good point, no need to read the actual info, if you say it it must be true and so should we follow

It's a common tactic of the scientifically illiterate that I think is beneficial to point out to save time. Instead of putting their own interpretation on the science (which can be easily debunked of course), they simply restate their opinion vaguely and then suggest science backs it up (again, with no specifics like you have just done). Well science does not back up the foolish notion that a global flood occurred and that species were saved by getting on a boat, your articles do not say this. In fact in one of those links it specifically stated that did not happen, and it was just a local flood (which of course way back when travel was measured in km per day seemed like all of the everything).

To put it simply, there is not enough water in the world to cover all the land. Now, what exactly is Gilgamesh's ark actually a metaphor for, is up to the reader to decide, but one thing is certain, the literal meaning doesn't stack up.

That video would in fact be much more suited to those simply following the literal meaning of words in a book written by some bloke over 2,000 years ago; lemmings indeed.

[10bikekid]

It's a common tactic of the scientifically illiterate that I think is beneficial to point out to save time. Instead of putting their own interpretation on the science (which can be easily debunked of course), they simply restate their opinion vaguely and then suggest science backs it up (again, with no specifics like you have just done). Well science does not back up the foolish notion that a global flood occurred and that species were saved by getting on a boat, your articles do not say this. In fact in one of those links it specifically stated that did not happen, and it was just a local flood (which of course way back when travel was measured in km per day seemed like all of the everything).

To put it simply, there is not enough water in the world to cover all the land. Now, what exactly is Gilgamesh's ark actually a metaphor for, is up to the reader to decide, but one thing is certain, the literal meaning doesn't stack up.

That video would in fact be much more suited to those simply following the literal meaning of words in a book written by some bloke over 2,000 years ago; lemmings indeed.

Thanks for taking the time to read and to write comment,

Your original comments were directed at Geologist and not at the like of myself a non geologist like yourself, part of the references were to show that they are very aware of Global flooding, in fact its doubtfull that many of them would dispute that pretty much all the earth surface has evidently been under water or affected by major flooding and the fact that over 40 different culture groups would attest to that would only add weight to that.

There are several lines of thoughts as to the Noah flood account Global V localised and the fact that the original writings in Hebrew do not rule out either as the wording used could mean either.

What is in little doubt is that yes most if not all the planet has been under water at some stage and and given that and the possible Hebrew context you cannot rule out the Noah story on Geologist findings as you originally suggested.

nice chatting

[bogan]

Thanks for taking the time to read and to write comment,

Your original comments were directed at Geologist and not at the like of myself a non geologist like yourself, part of the references were to show that they are very aware of Global flooding, in fact its doubtfull that many of them would dispute that pretty much all the earth surface has evidently been under water or affected by major flooding and the fact that over 40 different culture groups would attest to that would only add weight to that.

There are several lines of thoughts as to the Noah flood account Global V localised and the fact that the original writings in Hebrew do not rule out either as the wording used could mean either.

What is in little doubt is that yes most if not all the planet has been under water at some stage and and given that and the possible Hebrew context you cannot rule out the Noah story on Geologist findings as you originally suggested.

My original comments were not directed at geologists; they were representative of geologist's opinions. They are aware of the fable about it, but do not think it could have happened.

Try reading http://www.amazon.com/The-Biblical-F.../dp/0802807194 not only does it discount a global flood based on a geologist's interpretation, he uses that as a case study to show how christians pick and choose science depending on how well it conforms to their literal interpretations of the bible.

And if it is only a local flood, then no worries about cramming species two by two into said arc, cos they can just move to higher ground (or not be in the flood to begin with) to save said species from extinction.