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[scrivy]

Just like those that swallow every official story by saying "Ah, so that's what happened".

I don't know exactly what went down on 9/11. I do know though, that there are holes in the official story you could sail a fleet of battleships through.

All the US gooberment have to do is simply show just 1 video (not 1 frame) showing a plane hitting the Pentagon, and I'll eat my own faeces on live stream.... and I'll repent all my hate towards the US.....

Hell, I'll even do it naked, spanking my monkey.....

[rebel]

All the US gooberment have to do is simply show just 1 video (not 1 frame) showing a plane hitting the Pentagon, and I'll eat my own faeces on live stream.... and I'll repent all my hate towards the US.....

Hell, I'll even do it naked, spanking my monkey.....

No reports of passenger body or body part recovery from the Pentagon. All apparently burned to ashes or beyond recognition.
Which is a load of shit. Refer to eye witness and emergency response crews' accounts of PSA Flight 182 in 1978 or AeroMexico Flight 498 1986 for example.

[Banditbandit]

All the US gooberment have to do is simply show just 1 video (not 1 frame) showing a plane hitting the Pentagon, and I'll eat my own faeces on live stream.... and I'll repent all my hate towards the US.....

Hell, I'll even do it naked, spanking my monkey.....

Let me see now ... (keep this simple for the masses) it has been shown that a bike or car travelling at something like 280 klicks will NOT be photographed on a speed camera ....

The 757 that hit the Pentagon has a cruising speed of around 850 klicks ... And is likely to have been doing well over 280 klicks when it hit the Pentagon ...

From a static camera pointing at the wall of the Pentagon, just how many frames do you expect the plane to be seen on? (Given that the film is NOT a continuous image, but a series of frames) ...

[Katman]

From a static camera pointing at the wall of the Pentagon, just how many frames do you expect the plane to be seen on? (Given that the film is NOT a continuous image, but a series of frames) ...

Do you seriously think that there was only one video camera operating in the vicinity of the Pentagon that day?

[mashman]

Let me see now ... (keep this simple for the masses) it has been shown that a bike or car travelling at something like 280 klicks will NOT be photographed on a speed camera ....

The 757 that hit the Pentagon has a cruising speed of around 850 klicks ... And is likely to have been doing well over 280 klicks when it hit the Pentagon ...

From a static camera pointing at the wall of the Pentagon, just how many frames do you expect the plane to be seen on? (Given that the film is NOT a continuous image, but a series of frames) ...

Yet there was film of aircraft smashing into buildings on that very same day? I guess we need better speed cameras

[Laava]

No matter how many cameras there are and how much or how good the footage is, there will always be those who smell a conspiracy. Trade towers for instance. And why would you expect any govt agency to release footage they have in the possesion?
I believe they should, but we all know that is not going to happen.

[Paul in NZ]

Do you seriously think that there was only one video camera operating in the vicinity of the Pentagon that day?

The answer to that is... it depends...

If you are inside a big secure building you will typically have cameras monitoring hallways, lobbies, entrances etc and facing out from the building. You won't have many across the road looking at your building. Lets assume that the official version is true - ie the impact and fire was so great everyting was vapourised then a lot of your infrastructure would also go to ash. You might not get a clear image of a plane crashing into your building.

[Katman]

And why would you expect any govt agency to release footage they have in the possesion?
I believe they should, but we all know that is not going to happen.

Well for a start, a number of video recordings seized on that day are not even the property of the government.

[scrivy]

Let me see now ... (keep this simple for the masses) it has been shown that a bike or car travelling at something like 280 klicks will NOT be photographed on a speed camera ....
The 757 that hit the Pentagon has a cruising speed of around 850 klicks ... And is likely to have been doing well over 280 klicks when it hit the Pentagon ...
From a static camera pointing at the wall of the Pentagon, just how many frames do you expect the plane to be seen on? (Given that the film is NOT a continuous image, but a series of frames) ...

Let me see now....... Keeping it real simple for the masses too.... the CIA/FBI/NSA etc. etc... confiscated 84 video cameras that were pointed at the Pentagon that morning from such places like hotels, motels, petrol stations, security cameras etc etc.... from up to a few kms away (still real simple), yet they won't show even a 5 second clip from any of them..... it has nothing to do with the frame speed of the video cameras, nor the Pentagon video footage they released.... However, the Pentagon has many tens of videos around its perimeter looking outwards - google it. Another issue not raised, is why did the Pentagon anti-aircraft defense system of missiles not blow up the plane before it hit?? Afterall, that was their function when any aircraft hasn't squawked the correct code.

Another point, being an ex-pilot, I can tell you that there is no way a 757 can fly at ground level at 850kms - at 35,000 ft, yip, no issue, but not at sea level. So another 'smoke n mirrors' argument.

One only has to view the size of the engine turbine assembly they 'found' at the pentagon to realise it wasn't from a 757. <----- I mean REALLY???? You can stand inside a 757 engine casing.
So... what size is a cruise missile turbine?????

[awa355]

Rather ironic, coming from a President.,

"I think Americans have learned it's harder to end wars than it is to begin them. Yet this is how wars end in the 21st Century."

[scrivy]

Let me see now ... (keep this simple for the masses) it has been shown that a bike or car travelling at something like 280 klicks will NOT be photographed on a speed camera ....

The 757 that hit the Pentagon has a cruising speed of around 850 klicks ... And is likely to have been doing well over 280 klicks when it hit the Pentagon ...

From a static camera pointing at the wall of the Pentagon, just how many frames do you expect the plane to be seen on? (Given that the film is NOT a continuous image, but a series of frames) ...

Not picking on you Bandit, but if I said I saw your mother this morning driving her car, doing handbrake turns, donuts, and going through stop signs, would you assume Katman would believe me?? Would you assume Katman might have some questions to prove me wrong??
And the next thing is, how many people are going to come forward to prove me wrong??

[Katman]

So... what size is a cruise missile turbine?????

A bit of googling tells me that the Williams FJ-44 turbine measures about 580mm in diameter.

If a person stood next to one it would come to somewhere between their knee and their hip.

[scrivy]

A bit of googling tells me that the Williams FJ-44 turbine measures about 580mm in diameter.

If a person stood next to one it would come to somewhere between their knee and their hip.

Well fuck me!!
Either that guy is over 50 foot tall, or that's a cruise missile turbine rotor.... Now Katman, don't you go putting seeds of doubt into peoples minds.....
The arabs did it remember........

[Katman]

Either that guy is over 50 foot tall.....

Well I suppose that's possible.

9/11 rewrote the laws of physics so why couldn't it rewrite the laws of human physiology?

[Laava]

Let me see now....... Keeping it real simple for the masses too.... the CIA/FBI/NSA etc. etc... confiscated 84 video cameras that were pointed at the Pentagon that morning from such places like hotels, motels, petrol stations, security cameras etc etc.... from up to a few kms away (still real simple), yet they won't show even a 5 second clip from any of them..... it has nothing to do with the frame speed of the video cameras, nor the Pentagon video footage they released.... However, the Pentagon has many tens of videos around its perimeter looking outwards - google it. Another issue not raised, is why did the Pentagon anti-aircraft defense system of missiles not blow up the plane before it hit?? Afterall, that was their function when any aircraft hasn't squawked the correct code.

Another point, being an ex-pilot, I can tell you that there is no way a 757 can fly at ground level at 850kms - at 35,000 ft, yip, no issue, but not at sea level. So another 'smoke n mirrors' argument.

One only has to view the size of the engine turbine assembly they 'found' at the pentagon to realise it wasn't from a 757. <----- I mean REALLY???? You can stand inside a 757 engine casing.
So... what size is a cruise missile turbine?????

So you being an ex pilot would know about the APU. What size turbine is the APU on the plane said to have struck the Pentagon?

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