Watch the news - B777 missing

[nodrog:Me]

[scrivy]

Now we'll never find it............


Fecken Wally!!

[nodrog:Me]

[jonbuoy]

That would indeed be true if a 'big' nation wanted to acquire it/or hide it. But what if it was a small state that needed the plane to use for a copy cat of 9/11??
Then it could be friggin anywhere.

I still don't think it crashed.

You can buy them - you don't have to steal them complete with passengers. As a flying bomb a cargo version would be better.

[nodrog:Me]

You can buy them - you don't have to steal them complete with passengers. As a flying bomb a cargo version would be better.

They cost money.

[awa355]

This morning. The search is going to be handed over to private enterprise.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/10...H370-Kiwi-says

[scrivy]

You can buy them - you don't have to steal them complete with passengers. As a flying bomb a cargo version would be better.

Yeah you could buy them..... but thats only half the fun as compared to stealing one.... then sending the worlds superpowers on a witch hunt for it....
Besides, Afghani rebels or Paki millitants couldn't afford a 777, nor would Boeing or the like sell one to them......

Watch out for a 777 with 'hand painted' markings on it being flown into a tall building somewhere..... with the radio sqwauking 'ALA AKABA'..........

[scrivy]

But RR did get a download or info on how long the engines ran anyway. So that tells us the system is built in anyway and always working its just they don't disclose to the non paying airline the data if they don't subscribe.
With the money these things are worth and how cheap data storage is you can bet there is a harddrive at RR HQ with EVERYTHING those two engines have ever done.

An hourly 'ping' doesn't really portray the readings that RR had on their screen (in that video clip) of any engine in 'real time' - which they could in turn relay onto ground maintenance crews at their next destination....
If RR have a more frequent relay time than 1 hour, then they surely could have detected the engine spool up or down when the 777 changed flight levels? To prove it did happen? What's more, they'd also have the engine shutdown data also??? Eg. spooled down due to no fuel, or standard shutdown procedure, after the plane had taxied to a stop??

Fecked if I'd know, but surely the data was still being transmitted even though MA didn't subscribe to the service???

[oldrider]

Fecked if I'd know, but surely the data was still being transmitted even though MA didn't subscribe to the service???

Have to agree regards this aspect ... it really does cause my Herpes outbreak to itch soooo bad that the relief creams won't work!

RR internal staff must be asking some very embarrasing questions when they compile and annalise their own data from these engines!

Their professional lips must be sealed really really tight! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ?

[jonbuoy]

Yeah you could buy them..... but thats only half the fun as compared to stealing one.... then sending the worlds superpowers on a witch hunt for it....
Besides, Afghani rebels or Paki millitants couldn't afford a 777, nor would Boeing or the like sell one to them......

Watch out for a 777 with 'hand painted' markings on it being flown into a tall building somewhere..... with the radio sqwauking 'ALA AKABA'..........

True but there are some cheaper old airliners kicking around Africa that could do just as much damage. If this was a government conspiracy it's a pretty badly executed one. Now the Air France crash crash from a few years ago - that could have been well planned. Any real government conspiracies are probably so well planned we don't even suspect them. The tin foil hatters are looking in the wrong places.

[Brian d marge]

True but there are some cheaper old airliners kicking around Africa that could do just as much damage. If this was a government conspiracy it's a pretty badly executed one. Now the Air France crash crash from a few years ago - that could have been well planned. Any real government conspiracies are probably so well planned we don't even suspect them. The tin foil hatters are looking in the wrong places.

Kennedy
Have u dealt with government dept
They couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery


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[jonbuoy]

Kennedy
Have u dealt with government dept
They couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery


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Which one is it then? Governments have been secretly conspiring against us leaving very little hard evidence or governments couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery?

[R650R]

Which one is it then? Governments have been secretly conspiring against us leaving very little hard evidence or governments couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery?

This tired line is always trotted out. When people claim a conspiracy it doesn't mean the whole govt is in on it. And we've all seen the line a hundred times in cop and military movies, info is on a need to know basis.
So it only takes a few people following orders like good germans were for someone at the top to be enacting a bigger more devious operation.
And even if good people at lower or higher levels become aware something is up people know the price whistleblowers pay and how easy it is to discredit someone with right backup.

Take a look at the Rainbow Warrior incident. A clear proven example of a (foreign) govt attack.
Now did the whole French govt vote on it or know it was going to happen, likely not. Who would have known, prob someone high in defence dept and maybe the pm???
We were lucky the French were so sloppy with that one and got caught. And also this was back when the media was a lot more free and independent than it is now.
If that happened in todays world they would prob phone up Key and let him know whats about to go down on his patch and promise to buy a few million kgs of milk powder as compensation.
The media would all get a pre scripted release from the right person in police dept that XXX is likely suspect. A few key people would use a variety of reasons to make sure cops and navy staffing at lowest levels possible etc.
A waterproof passport bearing the identity of XXX would be found at scene etc

[jonbuoy]

This tired line is always trotted out. When people claim a conspiracy it doesn't mean the whole govt is in on it. And we've all seen the line a hundred times in cop and military movies, info is on a need to know basis.
So it only takes a few people following orders like good germans were for someone at the top to be enacting a bigger more devious operation.
And even if good people at lower or higher levels become aware something is up people know the price whistleblowers pay and how easy it is to discredit someone with right backup.

Take a look at the Rainbow Warrior incident. A clear proven example of a (foreign) govt attack.
Now did the whole French govt vote on it or know it was going to happen, likely not. Who would have known, prob someone high in defence dept and maybe the pm???
We were lucky the French were so sloppy with that one and got caught. And also this was back when the media was a lot more free and independent than it is now.
If that happened in todays world they would prob phone up Key and let him know whats about to go down on his patch and promise to buy a few million kgs of milk powder as compensation.
The media would all get a pre scripted release from the right person in police dept that XXX is likely suspect. A few key people would use a variety of reasons to make sure cops and navy staffing at lowest levels possible etc.
A waterproof passport bearing the identity of XXX would be found at scene etc

If you want to deliberately crash an airliner wouldn't it make sense not to turn it into
one of the biggest aviation mysteries in history? Rainbow warrior was never made to look like an accident was it?

[oldrider]

I personally was pleased that the rainbow warrior was sunk but I was pissed with the smartarse French for doing it in our country! Cunts!