Cunliffe's constituent Liu?

**unstuck** · 21st June 2014, 07:58

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Aye.

But we still need to take that shit and sell it.

Yep, 100%. It is a valuable natural resource. And helilogging is not new to the coast at all, for the more sensitive areas.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 21st June 2014, 08:05

Originally Posted by unstuck

Yep, 100%. It is a valuable natural resource. And helilogging is not new to the coast at all, for the more sensitive areas.

CRash and burn. Like this...

http://digg.com/video/gopro-longest-...edium=facebook

**Ulsterkiwi** · 21st June 2014, 08:19

Originally Posted by Katman

A suspicious mind might be forgiven for wondering if the contract for logging all of this native timber might go to a company belonging to a certain Chinaman married to our Justice Minister - who also just happens to have an estimated $50 million worth of swamp Kauri ready to send off to China.

may well be the case. Something I learned recently was how little (if any) of the revenue from Northland swamp kauri actually ends up in the pocket of Northland people. I was amazed. Probably should not be.

**unstuck** · 21st June 2014, 08:25

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

CRash and burn. Like this...

Faaaark.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 21st June 2014, 08:27

Originally Posted by unstuck

Faaaark.

Lol. Yep. The eyes on the cunt whilst coming in to land. Priceless. Been there a few times myself racing. Know the feeling. Impending doom...

**Katman** · 21st June 2014, 08:41

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

IF that was the reason then sure. But we still need to take that shit and sell it.

If the money for the trees stays in New Zealand to benefit all the people of New Zealand then fair enough.

But if the money is going into the pocket of an already wealthy business owner who is going to send the timber straight out of the country then fuck that.

Also, have you stopped to consider how massively hazardous felling wind blown trees is? I can't see the job being done without huge disruption to the surrounding ecosystem (Remember it's a protected conservation area). What's to stop unscrupulous loggers (or wealthy unscrupulous business owners) chopping down a few healthy trees as well?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 21st June 2014, 09:06

Originally Posted by Katman

If the money for the trees stays in New Zealand to benefit all the people of New Zealand then fair enough.

But if the money is going into the pocket of an already wealthy business who is going to send the timber straight out of the country then fuck that.

Also, have you stopped to consider how massively hazardous felling wind blown trees is? I can't see the job being done without huge disruption to the surrounding ecosystem. What's to stop unscrupulous loggers (or wealthy unscrupulous business owners) chopping down a few healthy trees as well?

Agree fully mate.

**oldrider** · 21st June 2014, 09:11

Originally Posted by Katman

If the money for the trees stays in New Zealand to benefit all the people of New Zealand then fair enough.

But if the money is going into the pocket of an already wealthy business who is going to send the timber straight out of the country then fuck that.

Also, have you stopped to consider how massively hazardous felling wind blown trees is? I can't see the job being done without huge disruption to the surrounding ecosystem (Remember it's a protected conservation area). What's to stop unscrupulous loggers (or wealthy unscrupulous business owners) chopping down a few healthy trees as well?

Just a little paranoid maybe?

**Katman** · 21st June 2014, 09:15

Originally Posted by oldrider

Just a little paranoid maybe?

Really John? Perhaps you should go back and reread post #108.

**Katman** · 21st June 2014, 09:33

An opposing viewpoint from someone other than the Green party.

http://www.forestandbird.org.nz/what...93-forest-bird

**unstuck** · 21st June 2014, 09:46

I still think it would be feasible, with some sensible decision making. As long as it was the west coast region that was the major benefactor from the deal.

**Katman** · 21st June 2014, 09:49

Originally Posted by unstuck

I still think it would be feasible, with some sensible decision making. As long as it was the west coast region that was the major benefactor from the deal.

It would also need to have consideration for the number of fallen trees within a measured area.

If not legislated for carefully you could have loggers who would clear a huge area of healthy trees simply to gain access to one or two fallen trees.

**Shaun Harris** · 21st June 2014, 09:58

Originally Posted by Katman

Robert, I will bow to you in all things suspensional, but politically you are a veritable fossil.

You can never take the red out of the neck man

**MisterD** · 21st June 2014, 10:31

Originally Posted by unstuck

I still think it would be feasible, with some sensible decision making. As long as it was the west coast region that was the major benefactor from the deal.

The coast and conservation projects will be the major benefactors. It'll be interesting to see what the Labour Party does, and if they oppose, what Damien O'Connor does.

**unstuck** · 21st June 2014, 10:47

Originally Posted by Katman

It would also need to have consideration for the number of fallen trees within a measured area.

If not legislated for carefully you could have loggers who would clear a huge area of healthy trees simply to gain access to one or two fallen trees.

That why I said Sensible decision making was needed.

I would think it possible to filter the logs into the markets that already exist and create additional employment also.