Retiree shoots pregnant intruder

[nzspokes]

Does either of those things justify the death penalty?

Read post #34.

[Akzle]

Does either of those things justify the death penalty?

in texas, yes, both. Infact if someone fucks with your neighbours shit you can bust a cap in dey ass.
Castle law.

[bogan]

Read post #34.

It isn't self defense if your attacker is incapacitated and begging for mercy. At that point it becomes the dishing out of personal justice.

[nzspokes]

It isn't self defense if your attacker is incapacitated and begging for mercy. At that point it becomes the dishing out of personal justice.

Where was the male? Was he armed now? Was the female capable of taking the weapon and using it? How was the female incapacitated?

[bogan]

Where was the male? Was he armed now? Was the female capable of taking the weapon and using it? How was the female incapacitated?

The article didn't say, though it certainly implies he shot the woman once as she was running away, and then a second time to finish her off.
""I come back and they see me with a gun, and they run," Mr Greer said."

Like I said, "It isn't self defense if your attacker is incapacitated and begging for mercy. At that point it becomes the dishing out of personal justice."

[MD]

He claims he was begged for mercy and showed none.

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Maybe he couldn't give her any mercy because some thieving pricks had broken into his home and stolen his entire supply of mercy.

I think any recipient of mercy should be deserving. If someone gives no mercy to others they harm then by their actions they have chosen to forfeit any right or claim to receive mercy from others

[nzspokes]

The article didn't say, though it certainly implies he shot the woman once as she was running away

Was she running to get a weapon and resume the attack? Was the motivation to kill the old fella and take whatever they were after? Was the male coming back? Was he armed?

Had they made threats to kill him?

They invaded his home. They attacked him. They did this in a country that allows the use of deadly force to protect themselves.

[Sharry]

Does either of those things justify the death penalty?

What justified a home invasion?
What justified beating and attempting to disable an elderly man?
How do we know she was pregnant?
How do any of us know how we would react after a home invasion and beating with your body filled with adrenaline where one offender has left the house, maybe to get his own weapon and return?
He spent his life earning what he has got and nobody has any right to terrorise him in that way.

There is not enough respect for the elderly, or people in general.

[Big Dog]

Mercy is one of the few things you improve your life by giving it away.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[nzspokes]

Mercy is one of the few things you improve your life by giving it away.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I would imagine mercy is the last thing on your mind when somebody has just tried to kill you.

[Big Dog]

Don't get me wrong. There is a reason my crow bar is where it is.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[bogan]

Was she running to get a weapon and resume the attack? Was the motivation to kill the old fella and take whatever they were after? Was the male coming back? Was he armed?

Had they made threats to kill him?

They invaded his home. They attacked him. They did this in a country that allows the use of deadly force to protect themselves.

I dunno, do you? there is nothing in the article about imminent peril, sounds more like he just felt he had an excuse to do some killing he could get away with. Not to say the article is 100% accurate of course, but the ambiguity bears thinking about I would say. There are certainly case in which such a killing would be justifiable, just as there are certainly cases in which it would not; without more info to decide which is which I don't think an in-home beating/invasion justifies the death penalty.

[Sharry]

Mercy is one of the few things you improve your life by giving it away.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I'm sorry but give mercy were mercy has been earnt.

Give mercy to an assailant so they can run off laughing at getting away with it, which will reinforce their core values and encourage them to do it again to someone else... who may not survive to defend themselves?

[bogan]

What justified a home invasion?
What justified beating and attempting to disable an elderly man?
How do we know she was pregnant?
How do any of us know how we would react after a home invasion and beating with your body filled with adrenaline where one offender has left the house, maybe to get his own weapon and return?
He spent his life earning what he has got and nobody has any right to terrorise him in that way.

There is not enough respect for the elderly, or people in general.

Nothing.
Nothing.
Is it really relevant?
We don't, possibly why the article is worth reading and thinking about; I don't think I could ever get over killing someone while they begger for mercy no matter how well justified it as, could you?
Of course they don't. But just cos they didn't have the right to do what they did, doesn't mean they no longer have the right to live.

So, the solution to not enough respect is to just kill the disrespectful? Not sure I'm quite on board with such measures

[Akzle]

Mercy is one of the few things you improve your life by giving it away.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

so's money. And cocaine.