Elections are coming up. What are we thinking?

[mashman]

Politically educate yourself. Take a stance.

What says he hasn't already and realised that it's a complete waste of time and effort as the results are evident? He did take a stance. No confidence should be on the ballot. Put it on there and make it count (i.e. report it), and I bet he'd vote. I would also.

[Berries]

You need to get more informed. Politically educate yourself. Take a stance. The reason why I have said that is your post was basically bitching and whining....you don't get the right to bitch and whine about politics, unless you get off your arse and vote!!

and that is lazy. its your country...our democracy...have your say or don't have an opinion!

Oh yes, that old nutshell, if you don't vote you can't complain. I don't complain about politics, I just get on with my life and leave the bitching and whining to the people who think Labour are wankers or National are wankers or Hone dotcom Dunne Peters is the saviour. The fact that people are Labour or National voters indicates to me that fuck all thought actually goes in to their decision anyway.

I consider myself informed, I just don't give a shit about politics or the absolute circus that surrounds it. That is my stance, sorry. I arrived in New Zealand when Jim Bolger was PM, then Jenny Shipley, Helen Clark and John Key. They had no real influence on my life. Who wins this one won't either so, you know, it's irrelevant to me. I just posted because the option of not giving a shit wasn't there, not that I would vote for it anyway.

[Berries]

What says he hasn't already and realised that it's a complete waste of time and effort as the results are evident? He did take a stance. No confidence should be on the ballot. Put it on there and make it count (i.e. report it), and I bet he'd vote.

Nah, I still couldn't be arsed.

[Banditbandit]

..leave my serious one alone!

It's a political thread isn't it ??

[mashman]

Nah, I still couldn't be arsed.

You lazy cunt... I take it all back.

[Voltaire]

My preferred party the

I'm a communist or to lazy get of my arse and too dumb to vote

are looking good for a seat
needs a shorter name though.
Thinking ....Lazy Arse Bastards Communist Underclass Non Thinkers or LABCUNT

[Hinny]

You're posting from the US?

Birds of a feather.
Realistically though I guess NZ doesn't have a voice on the world stage. Well not with a PM with such an affection for the US and their policies.
Remember how willing he was to commit NZ to go to war against North Korea and how playing golf with Obama was enough to change his attitude to committing troops to Iraq. Doesn't want NZ to be "Missing in Action" again.

The question was raised earlier about how much confidence we can have in the integrety of our election process.
Given the meteoric rise in support for National when Don Brash was leader -media polls vs election polls one may be led to suspect the integrety of each of them.
The outcome of our elections in my opinion illustrates the problem with democracy. The vote goes to the those with the most favourable media coverage. In the US that is invariably those people with the biggest budgets.

Given how deeply embedded the US is in our affairs, and also given they had just an rigged election, one could be forgiven for thinking that could happen here.

[Ocean1]

But the majority can't be right, they don't agree with ME!... Unless... of course, teh system's rigged!

Best you keep your head down dude, or the GCSB will be around to have a wee chat.

[Hinny]

Best you keep your head down dude, or the GCSB will be around to have a wee chat.

I do keep my head down.
Very few in this country that don't.

[Hinny]

Best you keep your head down dude, or the GCSB will be around to have a wee chat.

Your lamely doctored 'quote' reminded me of a Larson cartoon
- a horse sitting in a meeting.
every other being in there was a cow.

Caption read - Just because you are in the minority it doesn't mean you are wrong.

Interestingly nobody seems to have anything positive to say about the National party.
Not a word about its performance over the last 6 years.
Not a word about any policy they have for the future.
I have theories on why that would be.

[oldrider]

Birds of a feather.
Realistically though I guess NZ doesn't have a voice on the world stage. Well not with a PM with such an affection for the US and their policies.
Remember how willing he was to commit NZ to go to war against North Korea and how playing golf with Obama was enough to change his attitude to committing troops to Iraq. Doesn't want NZ to be "Missing in Action" again.

The question was raised earlier about how much confidence we can have in the integrety of our election process.
Given the meteoric rise in support for National when Don Brash was leader -media polls vs election polls one may be led to suspect the integrety of each of them.
The outcome of our elections in my opinion illustrates the problem with democracy. The vote goes to the those with the most favourable media coverage. In the US that is invariably those people with the biggest budgets.

Given how deeply embedded the US is in our affairs, and also given they had just an rigged election, one could be forgiven for thinking that could happen here.

Watching Obama being "strong" on defense of the refugees from ISIS while casting a completely blind eye to the Palestinian plight due to Israel made me sick!

The guy is nothing more than a Zionist puppet - what a complete contradiction, no wonder Netenyahu has the confidence to put him in his place and talk down to him!

America is only a shell of the nation it claims to be and was to the world as I grew up, it has succumed to the enemy within.

John Key should heed that but then what is John Key's background and how did he rise so quickly to power and become so confident in the presence of the "President"?

A little time a little thought and sometimes the mist begins to clear if not for a moment!

[cowpoos]

The question was raised earlier about how much confidence we can have in the integrety of our election process.
Given the meteoric rise in support for National when Don Brash was leader -media polls vs election polls one may be led to suspect the integrety of each of them.
The outcome of our elections in my opinion illustrates the problem with democracy. The vote goes to the those with the most favourable media coverage. In the US that is invariably those people with the biggest budgets.

The media in this country are heavy on the left really....Not really sure what you're insinuating, especially with all the proof you have provided to support your position? As for rigged polls....thats conspiracy theory rubbish.
We'll leave those sorts of fantasies out of this thread ta very much.

If you want to contribute to this thread....talk politics...not made up crap. Actual political debate!...not pointing fingers and telling lies..if you're going to make stuff up...tell lies...say money wins elections and crap...you really need to ponder the age we are in. Information is everywhere...we can see through smack talk from politicians in a instant. We can find the facts in a instant.
You also Need to ponder political history...I feel your position takes only selected facts on board and ignores the rest.

In saying that...please engage in debates...

[mada]

And in latest news:

National set to get heavy and crack down on gangs, after they crack down on the Police first!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11306513

Police numbers are being cut in Hawke's Bay despite statistics showing those already in the job are struggling to cope with the worst crime rates in the country.

The losses of at least seven sworn police and 10 support staff throughout the Eastern Police District, comprising Hawke's Bay and Gisborne-East Coast's Tairawhiti area, were revealed to staff at the end of last month.

Sworn officers will drop from 424 to 417, and their support staff will be slashed by more than 15 per cent, from 65 to 55, to meet "ratified" numbers for the district, staff were told.

[oldrider]

Having had a good read of KiwiBiker (therefore the world) diverse political opinions, one could be excused for reaching the following conclusions!

We appear to now live in a world where:

Doctors destroy health,
Lawyers destroy justice,
Universities destroy knowledge,
Governments destroy freedom,
The media destroys information,
Religions destroy morals,
Banks destroy the economy.

If this were in fact true:

Will anything change after the completion of the next election and the formation of a new government in our Aotearoa/New Zealand?

Or will it simply be, more of the same!

[Brian d marge]

Right the follow have been added to me list

Colon

• 007,
• Blackbird,
• bogan,
• carbonhed,
• caseye,
• cowpoos,
• cs363,
• Drew,
• EJK,
• GSW,
• hayd3n,
• jasonu,
• Oakie,
• oldrider,
• pzkpfw,
• Robbo,
• scott411,
• trustme,
• Wannabiker,
• Winston001,
• Woodman

Come the revolution brothers . . . . . .

Stephen