Nicky Hager

**Katman** · 17th August 2014, 16:56

Originally Posted by Woodman

Who controls the media?

Rich jews.

**carbonhed** · 17th August 2014, 17:09

Originally Posted by Katman

Rich jews.

One mention of "rational discourse" and.... voila!

**oldrider** · 17th August 2014, 18:10

Originally Posted by Katman

Rich jews.

Zionist Jews ... there is a big difference! ... In the pyramid of power they occupy the top 1% and are practically untouchable, Calculating and clever!

**Woodman** · 17th August 2014, 18:22

Answers pretty much as expected......Bollocks.

**mashman** · 17th August 2014, 18:36

Originally Posted by Woodman

Answers pretty much as expected......Bollocks.

Bollocks as in bullshit, or bollocks as in oh shit?

**mashman** · 17th August 2014, 18:54

It's a hackfest, yehaw.. the speed and ease that these guys are getting hold of communications could be moderately concerning. That or simply a show for you good folks to marvel at.

**oldrider** · 17th August 2014, 20:02

Originally Posted by Woodman

The media being totally controlled comment intrigues me, so I have some questions if you don't mind cos I don't know the answers.

Who controls the media?

Not rocking your boat, but I hear this a lot and nobody has actually said how the information is controlled, and by who(whom) and why?

Fair enough! Good questions. Use Google it for starters.

Start looking for evidence of controlling influences and keep on following these leads where ever you want to go and you will find your own answers!

Looky here: https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=US...MsqN8QeprID4DQ ... Interesting stuff that you may, or may not be aware of.

There is no end, these people are for real and will blow your mind just how influencial they are, don't under estimate them it's all happening as we speak!

The evidence is there all you have to do is look and judge for yourself uninfluenced by anyone else ... or stick your head in a box and mumble conspiracy!

Media control links ... try these for size: https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Zi...NsmN8QeL1oHICg

Hope that there is balance, for and against, make up your own mind.

**MisterD** · 17th August 2014, 21:00

But the point is that blogs are breaking that media gatekeepering. Anyone can choose the read what they want, from sources that are (novelty alert!) honest about their bias.

Nobody ever read whaleoil or Bradbury or Farrar or the Labour Staffers pretending to be ordinary lefty citizens at the Standard and thought it was the writing of some neutral journo.

There are, believe it or not, people who think John Campbell is not a raving lefty...strange but true.

**yokel** · 18th August 2014, 00:10

Originally Posted by MisterD

But the point is that blogs are breaking that media gatekeepering. Anyone can choose the read what they want, from sources that are (novelty alert!) honest about their bias.

Nobody ever read whaleoil or Bradbury or Farrar or the Labour Staffers pretending to be ordinary lefty citizens at the Standard and thought it was the writing of some neutral journo.

There are, believe it or not, people who think John Campbell is not a raving lefty...strange but true.

Cant stand John Campbell, he's a fucking cock sucker

**SPman** · 18th August 2014, 02:33

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Which is why your opinion isn't worth much, you assume the party stance well before checking to see if the facts support it.

My opinion is worth as much as yours, not that I particularly give a shit. I don't assume any "party" stance - it just so happens my beliefs and views seem to coincide more with people who do actually care about their fellow man than those who care mainly about themselves - generally.
Is Hager a conspiracy theorists - well - Rob Gilchrist, the undercover cop Hager "outed" some years back and caused much strife to.....

It may come as a surprise but I have the utmost respect for Mr Hager, He doesn’t write ’baseless allegations’, ’what-ifs and fanciful speculation’.....You see, Mr Hager is very good at what he does. He is not just a journalist who working to a deadline just makes stuff up to add to the word count. He researches the hell out of the subjects in his articles and books. He talks to the right people, asks the right questions and goes over every little detail he has available to him with a nit comb.
Mr Hager is also not a ‘conspiracy theorist‘, he’s just extremely good at finding conspiracies.”

**Paul in NZ** · 18th August 2014, 08:20

If Slater or Hager turned up at your door selling chocolates you would tend to take one look at them and think ‘what a fuckin nutter’ and shut the door. Yet we are happy to discuss their ‘opinions’ as if they are worthy of our time.

Organisations attract criticisms and people inside organisations do daft stuff or at best stuff that can be interpreted as nasty. I just wouldn’t trust either them OR the political parties to be truthful but at least political parties are organisations and have some kind of responsibility or a system of checks and balances. Individuals like Slater (who now appears to be mad) and Hager are capable of convincing themselves that black is white and there is no one to rein them in. Bonkers….