Labour leadership

[MisterD]

it tainted the books credibility.

That and the fact that even though we know there's a game of leaking to the press that all parties play, there was strangely no mention of the fact. No investigation into the Labour and Union staffers that blog at the Stranded, none of the communications between Labour-aligned people and Slater.

I'm perfectly prepared to believe that National were more cynical, better organised and "worse" in the way they played the game and used Slater and The Other KB, but because there was absolutely no mention of the other side, the book looks like the partisan hit-job it was.

[SPman]

Quite true!
However liarbour cannot comprehend this approach. They are still stuck in the unionist mindset where the base of their support are the unwashed and unloved. Sadly this describes the green-ist hippys and those who were parasites on society - the perpetual university students who were unable to get a job after completing their batchelor of arts/basket-weaving, tofu blending, societal-expansionist, "qualification".
Best be heading off to the UN for a lifetime career in that field.

You are a useless fucking brain dead arsehole, aren't you!

[Oscar]

You are a useless fucking brain dead arsehole, aren't you!

Shit, is he?
We'll nominate him for leader of the Labour Party.

He's gotta be an improvement on the incumbent...

[Banditbandit]

However liarbour cannot comprehend this approach. They are still stuck in the unionist mindset where the base of their support are the unwashed and unloved. Sadly this describes the green-ist hippys and those who were parasites on society - the perpetual university students who were unable to get a job after completing their batchelor of arts/basket-weaving, tofu blending, societal-expansionist, "qualification".
Best be heading off to the UN for a lifetime career in that field.

So - Labour and The Greens got 24.6 and 10.2 per cent respectively - so 34.8% of the voters are stuck in the unionist mindset where the base of their support are the unwashed and unloved and green-ist hippies and those who were parasites on society - the perpetual university students who were unable to get a job after completing their bachelor of arts/basket-weaving, tofu blending, societal-expansionist, "qualification".

That's a BIG call on your part ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

So - Labour and The Greens got 24.6 and 10.2 per cent respectively - so 34.8% of the voters are stuck in the unionist mindset where the base of their support are the unwashed and unloved and green-ist hippies and those who were parasites on society - the perpetual university students who were unable to get a job after completing their bachelor of arts/basket-weaving, tofu blending, societal-expansionist, "qualification".

That's a BIG call on your part ...

Is it like a major in basket weaving and a minor in tofu blending, so that you can put your tofu IN the baskets and sell it at the farmers market?

[Banditbandit]

Is it like a major in basket weaving and a minor in tofu blending, so that you can put your tofu IN the baskets and sell it at the farmers market?

Selling it is a capitalist activity and therefore a National party action ... Swoop's grate unwashed would ship it to sub-Saharan Africa as a token gesture of charity ...

[Swoop]

Swoop's grate unwashed would ship it to sub-Saharan Africa as a token gesture of charity ...

Charity? Fuck off! Those bastards must PAY for commodities!





By the way, it's "great". "Grate" means to slice thinly.

[Swoop]

Shit, is he?
We'll nominate him for leader of the Labour Party.

I would relish the task.
One simple meeting of all Party executives + MP's and some violent explosions would be experienced...

[Stylo]

Cunliffe , to me, looks a puppet and doing what he's told. Be interested in how many phone calls he's made to Aunty Helen in the last few days.

Interesting too how we haven't heard from her recently as an 'outside observer' ... her comments would be interesting.

She must be the only friend he's got left

[sidecar bob]

You are a useless fucking brain dead arsehole, aren't you!

Yeah!!! Name calling!! Now youre looking waaaay smarter than him!

[Woodman]

You are a useless fucking brain dead arsehole, aren't you!

Considering the source, I would take this as a compliment.

[HenryDorsetCase]

So, how are we feeling about a Grant Robertson/Jacinda Ardern ticket?

[oldrider]

Why don't the unions form their own party?: https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-st...e-poor-result/

MMP was made for them!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Why don't the unions form their own party?: https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-st...e-poor-result/

MMP was made for them!

well they kind of did. In 1908.

the big issue is that the country has changed so much.... and unions represent <20% of workers now. Yet they hire and fire leaders of the labour party. And the gay demographic is a real one, and its another faction.

Shane Jones would have been a great leader, except that he did not and never would have union or gay support. But actual people loved him

My personal view is that the labour party is done. The greens will expand and further soften their fundy principles and will morph into the "social justice" side (i.e. Left) while retaining the mainstream environmental cred. The clear model is Ze Cherman Green party, and they have been stunningly successful. So much so that pretty much all the Yrpn Green parties are following suit.

National under MMP has clearly moved from the right wing (which are now mainstream), and pinched the good centrist labour policies, et viola, "the natural party of gubblemunt"

To a student of the political sciences (which I was, once, but now am not) it is fascinating.

If you have stapled your colours to a particular mast (particularly a red one) then it is disconcerting at best, disastrous at worst.

[Banditbandit]

Charity? Fuck off! Those bastards must PAY for commodities!





By the way, it's "great". "Grate" means to slice thinly.

"Grate" was a bit of a pun - an attempt at a multi layered joke - it clearly "grated" with you.

No, I didn't expect charity from you - I was referring to the people you referred to as the great unwashed. Those greenie hippie freaks ..