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    Quote Originally Posted by haydes55 View Post
    I was told by an ex BP employee, the camera systems are minutes by a computer system which monitors most gas stations. If a vehicle has stolen gas, been reported stolen or the plates can't be read/scanned, an alarm goes off so the attendant knows to not activate the pump unless pre paid.

    As for not being able to prove the theft, the vehicle contains stolen goods. Petrol is a good (good English). If a vehicle owner claims innocence, they could still be done for receiving stolen goods.

    But gas stations have insurance, and they have accountants.
    Was that NZ or UK (where they do have ANPR) as I don't think NZ servos have stumped up for the cost of ANPR systems judging by the crap quality of vid grabs on police facebook page.

    The owner could not be done for receiving stolen goods. You would need to do an enormous amount of paperwork not to mention draining the tank and measuring to provide the appropriate evidence.
    Although there has beena recent conviction in that area with that Fonterra driver I suspect the other guy confessed and they have txt messages etc detailing the amounts...

    I'm not sure they would have insurance cover for such low level losses. The premium and excess charges/paperwork time would make it uneconomical for both sides.
    Eg most truck companies have insurance for rollovers, big claim half million dollars of gear plus the freight, excess would likely be around 50000 I think. But drop a pallet of apples or booze off the forklift and think that just comes straight out of the companies profits.
    You can get insurance for just about any event but theres a point where it becomes uneconomic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Maybe they can't be 'forced'.
    But if they didn't say who was driving it might cost them court time and dollars, lots at times.
    Yes if they come to police attention soon enough.
    But the unsubstantiated evidence, rumours, watching police tv reality shows and urban legends that support my sweeping generalisations shows that generally these scumbags are getting away with it.

    This reminds me I was going to start a Petrol stations to avoid thread. Pulled into the mobil at Tokoroa on Friday and on prepay in broad daylight, get stuffed, made it to Z taupo on vapours
    Not long and all be pay at the pump anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post



    I left before that was resolved but I believe he as terminated.


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    ...what?...they had him taken out...that's a bit harsh...

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    I agree with willytheekid. Buck stops here. I used to spend a
    Lot of time making sure the staff had the systems and support they needed to not have problems. We had the lowest drive offs in the network every month I had that station. Probably why I spotted the activities so easily.

    We had a policy of chase every drive off. Even if that meant spending $25 per recovery through an agent for a $2 fill and run. Word gets around. And they get $80 in recovery costs if not paid in 48 hours.


    Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Next thing the electrical companies will charge the meter-reader for electricity being stolen by people 'jumping' the meter...

    Ass-wipes.
    naaa'reckon police pay should be docked... for the cost of crimes left un-checked.
    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    Simple problem and it has a simple solution. Pay at pump, end of story.
    except i never have and will actually drive away from a fuel station if they refuse to unlock the pump (shell in royal oak auckland - you little gerpreet indian fuck, and mobile kamo, also a gerpreet indian fuck)
    Quote Originally Posted by haydes55 View Post
    It's illegal for a company to pay less than minimum wage, which after the pay is docked, many employees are effectively under paid. That's illegal. If pay docking is in your contract, then they can dock your pay with your consent.
    Wages Protection Act (if national havent repealed it) - a wealth of hilarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Pulled into the mobil at Tokoroa on Friday and on prepay in broad daylight, get stuffed,
    what would you do if you owned a gas station right in the middle of a reservation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    naaa'reckon police pay should be docked... for the cost of crimes left un-checked.

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    They already do.
    Hence my pathetic pay
    Hence the relative standard of recruits.

    Get criminals to stop doing crime and I might get a pay rise.
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    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/6339...ked-wages.html

    FUCK YEAH!!


    pat ya selves on the back kiwi's...the people spoke, and for once!...they actually listened to the outcry and did the right thing



    ...lets hope this starts a trend eh



    ps...someone go punch Nick in the face for me will ya (Gutless bastards probably "gone on paid leave")

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    They already do.
    Hence my pathetic pay
    and here is where hosc would mention value and profit. and explain how one leads the other.

    ...and since you're providing neither, you're a nett loss to the country, have you thought recently about suicide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    have you thought recently about suicide?
    Yes, yours.

    Frequently...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Get criminals to stop doing crime and I might get a pay rise.
    I keep trying but your NI chapter wont listen
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Yes, yours.

    Frequently...
    but i don't have one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    but i don't have one...
    One is all you will ever need.

    Unless you're the sort of loser that fucks up EVERYTHING in their life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    One is all you will ever need.

    Unless you're the sort of loser that fucks up EVERYTHING in their life.
    ahh, would that your opinion mattered. at all. ("attempted" suicides should be shot on principle - vote akzle )


    go stop some crime, bitch. votw

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Was that NZ or UK (where they do have ANPR) as I don't think NZ servos have stumped up for the cost of ANPR systems judging by the crap quality of vid grabs on police facebook page.
    BP NZ (at least the ones I have worked at in the Wellington region) do have ANPR and the system is as hayden described.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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