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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Because it is an intra societal exchange medium, society as a whole owns it. Grammar must conform to the consensus in order to maximise efficiency of idea exchange; it cannot conform to one person in this instance, and another somewhere else and remain at peak efficiency. It also cannot remain at peak efficiency with the number off buffoons butchering it, but at least there is still a benchmark.

    Again, public speaking is unidirectional communication, and generally not subject to the same rigors of peer review. Additionally, one would find their listeners diminishing in number if the spoke with an inadequate grasp of the language.
    For a case in point: you ring around and get a few quotes. They all vary. Because you are only able to supply symptoms your beloved bike is experiencing and not the cause or method of repair the suggested fixes are all different.

    Who do you go to for the fix in the absence of a good recommendation?
    The barely literate?
    The third world type who is trying, very trying?
    The English is not my first language type?
    The English is my first language but not from a place normally associated with quality workmanship sort?
    The English is my first language but I use the wrong technical words and lack conviction about the cause or fix?
    The well spoken person who had no hesitation and a convincing argument for why their fix would solve your problem?


    I think most people would slide down the above scale as far as they could skipping anyone they can't afford.





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    If you're slipping into the embrace of the anaesthetic prior to a cranial operation would you rather hear "hey nurse, chew wanna get fucked up? My dealer hooked me up wid some sweet buds." Or "Nurse, this should be rather routine. "


    Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    If you're slipping into the embrace of the anaesthetic prior to a anal operation would you rather hear "hey nurse, chew wanna get fucked up? My dealer hooked me up wid some sweet buds." Or "Nurse, this should be worth rooting. "
    Fixed it for you. Or should that be

    Fixed it for ya



    Meh (is that even a real word?) - it's a web site. Can't account for the education of the poster or the volume of booze induced prior to posting.


    I'm more worried about the CONTENT of some of the posts on KB!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Fixed it for you. Or should that be

    Fixed it for ya



    Meh (is that even a real word?) - it's a web site. Can't account for the education of the poster or the volume of booze induced prior to posting.


    I'm more worried about the CONTENT of some of the posts on KB!!!!!
    Aye, but I was answering to how seriously you take someone in the absence of other guides, such as past experience, referrals etc.


    Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Because it is an intra societal exchange medium, society as a whole owns it. Grammar must conform to the consensus in order to maximise efficiency of idea exchange; it cannot conform to one person in this instance, and another somewhere else and remain at peak efficiency. It also cannot remain at peak efficiency with the number off buffoons butchering it, but at least there is still a benchmark.

    Again, public speaking is unidirectional communication, and generally not subject to the same rigors of peer review. Additionally, one would find their listeners diminishing in number if the spoke with an inadequate grasp of the language.
    ...off... should be "of"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    For a case in point: you ring around and get a few quotes. They all vary. Because you are only able to supply symptoms your beloved bike is experiencing and not the cause or method of repair the suggested fixes are all different.

    Who do you go to for the fix in the absence of a good recommendation?
    The barely literate?
    The third world type who is trying, very trying?
    The English is not my first language type?
    The English is my first language but not from a place normally associated with quality workmanship sort?
    The English is my first language but I use the wrong technical words and lack conviction about the cause or fix?
    The well spoken person who had no hesitation and a convincing argument for why their fix would solve your problem?


    I think most people would slide down the above scale as far as they could skipping anyone they can't afford.





    Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
    I think you'll find that the "well spoken"person is not going to be the one that's actually going to be the one working on your bike for fear of actually doing something useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    I think you'll find that the "well spoken"person is not going to be the one that's actually going to be the one working on your bike for fear of actually doing something useful.
    So well spoken people are useless then?
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    ...off... should be "of"
    See, if you can pick errors up in my posts, there is no reason why you can't proof read your own
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    So well spoken people are useless then?
    Let's just say a well spoken person is not the same as someone that knows what they're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    Let's just say a well spoken person is not the same as someone that knows what they're talking about.
    Giant balls...............
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    See, if you can pick errors up in my posts, there is no reason why you can't proof read your own
    Your mate Ed seems to have pretty flawless grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardNZ View Post
    Your mate Ed seems to have pretty flawless grammar
    Never said it was the only factor in determining a poster's worth ; decent grammar is probably one of the reasons I still fuck with him instead of just chucking him on ignore like a few others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    Let's just say a well spoken person is not the same as someone that knows what they're talking about.
    I respectfully infer that the sentence you have just put forward is akin to the manure from a herd of cows.

    One can be well spoken and authoritative, just as one can be an verbally challenged and clueless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    just as one can be an verbally challenged and clueless.
    I may be verbally challenged and clueless, but I would not have put the AN in that sentence.
    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

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    Hey, if I'm going to tell someone to suck my cock the least I can do is try to spell it correctly.

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